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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: sirs on April 17, 2015, 04:46:32 AM

Title: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 17, 2015, 04:46:32 AM
Presidential Candidate: Hilary Clinton
VP:....*drum roll*.....: Barack Obama

Now, pure speculation here, since I doubt Obama would ever take orders from Hilary, but.....it would be a liberal Democrat's dream-team.  And....the Constitution doesn't preclude Obama from being elected as VP, after being a 2 term President.  It merely precludes him from being elected President a 3rd time

Scary thought, isn't it
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 17, 2015, 10:05:16 AM
This will never happen. It is unconstitutional, as the VP must be eligible to be president, and Obama is not eligible because of the amendment establishing a limit of only two terms.

Go play with your Rands and Rubios, sirs.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
This will never happen. It is unconstitutional, as the VP must be eligible to be president, and Obama is not eligible because of the amendment establishing a limit of only two terms.

Where in the Constitution does it way he'd be ineligible??  It only says he can't be ELECTED to a 3rd term.  As VP, if something happened to Hillary, he wouldn't have been elected now, would he.  Exactly how the Clintons & the Democrats love to parse words

Try reading the Constitution some time, instead of 50 Shades of Thor
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 17, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
There is zero chance that Obama will run for Vice President. That is just a very stupid idea that you brought up for God knows what reason.

Here is a poem you are sure to like:

Those who write on *house walls,
Roll their * in little balls;

Those who read these lines of wit.
EAT these little balls of *.

There is only a minimal amount of guessing involved here.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Plane on April 17, 2015, 07:16:10 PM
Presidential Candidate: Hilary Clinton
VP:....*drum roll*.....: Barack Obama

Now, pure speculation here, since I doubt Obama would ever take orders from Hilary, but.....it would be a liberal Democrat's dream-team.  And....the Constitution doesn't preclude Obama from being elected as VP, after being a 2 term President.  It merely precludes him from being elected President a 3rd time

Scary thought, isn't it


Oh?

If a former president can serve as veep then the dream ticket of Clinton and Clinton is possible.

Imagine that.
!
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 17, 2015, 08:59:31 PM
It is also theoretically possible to stuff three or four Republicans into a shuttle and send them off into space.

But that does not mean it is likely.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Plane on April 17, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
For the sake of argument , lets momentarily forget how unlikely this threads subject is.

Having a Clinton+Obama or a Clinton +Clinton ticket would be a very bad thing,

....because.....
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 18, 2015, 04:10:37 AM
There is zero chance that Obama will run for Vice President. That is just a very stupid idea that you brought up for God knows what reason.

I never claimed chance or want.  The idea was simple (and there in lies why you can't grasp it, of course).  The notion that Obama could, if he wanted to, literally be in line to be President again.  He won't do it, not because he constitutionally couldn't (given how he's twisted the Constitution to allow him to make up his own immigration legislation, separate from the legislative body), but because he wouldn't dare take orders from Hillary

But Plane is right, under the same guise, there's no reason Bill couldn't run as the VP candidate, since I don't believe there's anything in the Constitution that precludes the spouse of a Presidential candidate to run as the VP candidate

In either scenario, a very bad thing indeed.  A Conservative's worst nightmare
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 18, 2015, 07:20:16 PM
I can think of LOTS worse nightmares for Conservatives.

But this nonsense about Obama or Bill Clinton running for VP is less likely than a plague of rabid zombie pterodactyls.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 18, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
I can think of LOTS worse nightmares for Conservatives.

Yea, I bet you could.  Thank God for our Constitution, and the protections it provides all of us from folks just like you

Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 19, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Fortunately your stupidity is not contagious, sirs.

Now you can speculate on how PeeWee Herman is the ideal VP candidate.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Plane on April 19, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
I can think of LOTS worse nightmares for Conservatives.

But this nonsense about Obama or Bill Clinton running for VP is less likely than a plague of rabid zombie pterodactyls.

  Throw in a tornado and you have a good plot for a SciFi Channel movie there.

    I remember when Bill Clinton ran for President , he touted Hillary as a very capable administrator in her own right and a vote in his favor was a two for one bargain.

     Sure enough, as first lady she was invested with responsibility above the usual for that position.

     Recall of how she used that responsibility, is one of the reasons that I do not favor her presidency.

        Chelsea is too young to run as Vice President , but there is always next time.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 19, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
Fortunately your stupidity is not contagious, sirs.

Not so surprisingly, unable to reference what I'm supposedly stupid about.  But that's the "professor" for you


Now you can speculate on how PeeWee Herman is the ideal VP candidate.

And still more pathological deflection efforts.  It literally has no bounds
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 19, 2015, 02:48:21 PM
sirs, you are STUPID to suggest that there is any way that Bill Clinton or Barak Obama will be nominated as the Democratic Party's VP candidate.  It the sort of ignorant jackassical nonsense that you waste innocent electon after innocent electon on day after tedious day.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Plane on April 19, 2015, 04:58:42 PM
That there is no second bite of this apple for Bill or Barak is very good news.

How though is Bill ,who was co-president before, going to avoid being co-president again?

Have we ruled out Michelle as a candidate?
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 19, 2015, 07:46:13 PM
Bill Clinton will not run for anything, nor will either of the Obamas. But if they did, they would be preferable to guys like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and even Jebbie.
Since none of you will vote for any Democrat, it is hardly worth the discussion.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 20, 2015, 01:13:25 AM
sirs, you are STUPID to suggest that there is any way that Bill Clinton or Barak Obama will be nominated as the Democratic Party's VP candidate.  It the sort of ignorant jackassical nonsense that you waste innocent electon after innocent electon on day after tedious day.

The only stupidity here is the ongoing effort to claim something I never did.....in this case the notion that Obama or even Clinton (that PLANE brought up, not I) "will be nominated".  Those are YOUR words, not mine.  I never claimed or even implied that they would, merely that they COULD.  And given how Obama twists the constitution to allow himself to do things that even he claimed he couldn't, I wouldn't put it past the idea that he might have even considered it.  But then the idea of taking orders from Hillary, surely squelched any thought

And what the hell's an electon?
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 20, 2015, 12:10:14 PM
Aliens from the Planet Koozbane COULD attack us as well. But I refrain from memntioing it because the odds against this are astronomical, like the odds of the Democrats nominating Obama or Bill Clinton. 

There is no reason to postulate acts that are so improbable, it would be stupid.

But stupidity  is what you do best.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 20, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
You're talking Science Fiction.....best post that in the culture or entertainment section.  I was discussing politics, and acts that could be pulled by Democrats.  In fact, if they did, you'd turn your thought process around so fast, you'd pull one of those muscles in your head, proclaiming how great an idea it would be

So, what's that mysterious electon again?
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 20, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
What electron?

The Democrats will not nominate Obama or Bill Clinton for VP. That is just stupid. It is as stupid as visits from alien planets.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 20, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
I never believed a sitting president would actually act completely contrary to the Constitution,  that he himself said he was precluded from doing.....and did it anyways.   So I wouldn't put anything past this party
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 20, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
You do not know one goddamned thing about the Constitution. All you do here is reveal your Brobdingnagian ignorance and insufferable ignorance.
 
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 20, 2015, 08:04:50 PM
While you were apparently taking Spanish classes, I was actually taking civics & history.  I apparently know more about our Constitution, than you do the Spanish language.  Or any other language for that matter.  Specifically, the limitations it places on government, and the 3 branches that are SUPPOSED to provide oversight over each other.  Here's a hint, its not made to allow one branch to do whatever the hell it wants, just because they think its the right thing to do.  That might work in a dictatorship, but not in this country, with its Constitutionally built in checks & balances
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Plane on April 20, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
...................Brobdingnagian .........................

I like a Swift comeback.

It may be pretty silly to call a tired president out of retirement just to be Veep which is kinda retirement.

But electing Hillary Clinton does put Bill back in the Whitehouse.

Will Hillary give as much authority to the first husband as Bill gave to the first Lady?

Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 21, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
sirs, your academic record is a disgrace. You do not know squat about the history of this country, and have proven it time after time. To you, the Constitution is some sort of fucking religion. You chant the words and understand nothing.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 21, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
sirs, your academic record is a disgrace. You do not know squat about the history of this country, and have proven it time after time. To you, the Constitution is some sort of fucking religion. You chant the words and understand nothing.

LOL....all that opinion.....completely refuted by my academic degrees & rhetorical record.  Shame.  I tell you what though, anytime you want to try and validate that opinion with actual facts, I'll be happy to oblige in demonstrating just how wrong you are, some more
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 21, 2015, 10:29:28 AM
You have already proven that you do not know diddly about the history of this country by your stupid comments.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 21, 2015, 10:33:15 AM
Proven how?.....by your say so??  Once again, your 99% erroneous opinion/accusation, is again duly noted     ::)
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 21, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
You do not understand how slavery built this country, you do not understand how this country fights wars to increase the profits of the arms industry, you do not understand that the economy based on growth and the exploitation of nonrenewable resources is doomed.  You know nothing about WWI or the Civil War and Reconstruction or Civil Rights or the political development of this country.  You fail to grasp that change is a constant, that there is no possibility of Reaganite crap ever returning.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 21, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
Of course I know how slavery was initially used in this country.  Most of the wars however were not fought, simply to make money.  And you have an utter failing grade as to how this economy works.  Despite your ongoing Democrat talking points as to how evil war is, and Reagan was, and Republicans still are, the reality is that this country has had major ups and major downs, some caused by mass profiteering, but much of the downs also caused by wayward government policy, including some policies initiated by Republican administrations.  You see, that's why I have some objective credibility here....I can actually criticize all parties, when they demonstrate incompetence or failure.  You on the other had are so blinded by hateful ideology, that its all Dem good, GOP not just bad, but evil.  Which is why Dems can do anything and everything that you routinely condemn the GOP for, because in the end, the ends justify the means....Dem control of everything is the end goal, and screw the country.  They just don't know what's good for them
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 21, 2015, 11:51:21 AM
See? That is what I mean.

Don't know diddley.
Title: Re: How's this for a 2016 Democrat ticket...
Post by: sirs on April 21, 2015, 12:08:32 PM
See?  That's just your opinion, devoid of any facts to support it

You apparently know less than diddley, whoever he is.  One of your students?