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Fascism
« on: December 08, 2007, 01:49:13 PM »
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Fascism, a movement started by the Syndicalist-Socialist labor leader Benito Mussolini, certainly was a "left wing" movement. The successful deception to put it on the "right" was a tactic of the Communists, who tried to build an "anti-Fascist" coalition that would attract respectable people like J. Robert Oppenheimer. Of course the Communists were perfectly willing to make common cause with the Fascists in opposing the Socialists, but that's another matter.

The theory of Fascism, to the extent that it has a self-consistent political philosophy, accepts the Marxist theory of history as a series of class struggles; but whereas Communism seeks to end class warfare, Fascism believes social classes are inevitable.  Mussolini was undoubtedly influenced in this belief by the brilliant work of Vilfredo Pareto, whose work demonstrated that power is always distributed unevenly, there will always be elites, and attempts to destroy class structures only replace one kind of social class with another. (The history of Communist societies and the nomenklatura are instances of successful predictions of Pareto's theories.)

Since social classes are inevitable, but class warfare cripples the state, the solution to the problem is for the State to stand above the social classes and force them to work together, preferably in equity and fair play. Fair play or no, though, the important thing is to make the classes cease their warfare and stop cancelling each other out, so that there can be social progress and national greatness. Hitler was Mussolini's disciple from the 1920's until the Austrian Anschluss. For a demonstration of the "left wing" nature of his thought, get a copy of Leni Riefenstahl's brilliant propaganda film The Triumph of the Will. In particular see the sequence in which thousands of laborers do a manual of arms with shovels, as the voiceover speaks about the relationship of "the classes and the masses."

Italian Fascism and its copiers including Francisco Franco's Phalange brought representatives of all social classes and institutions into the government, and in Italy the Grand Council of Fasces was the supreme legislative and policy body in the Kingdom; when in 1943 the Council voted no confidence in Mussolini as Duce, the King dismissed him.

Fascism had supporters in other countries. Franklin Delano Roosevelt resorted to a number of Fascist devices, including the "Blue Eagle" NRA; traces of this syndicalism remain in regulations governing the product of citrus fruit and milk to this day. Huey Long of Louisiana, himself sympathetic to the fascist theory of history and government, pointed out the fascist elements in Roosevelt's programs, and famously said that when Fascism came to the United States it would be in disguise.

The great conflicts between Fascism and Communism during the 1930's were not due to any great theoretical difference between the two philosophies; instead it was a power struggle pure and simple, each convinced that the other had stolen the other's clothes.

This is relevant to today's news in that the Bush plan for ending the mortgage crisis could have come right out of Mussolini's play book. It requires the loan companies to cooperate and devise rules, all reminiscent of the NRA. Note that the Democrats are quite in favor of the plan, only they want it to go farther and be under more government (bureaucratic) control. Neither has any trust in the free market.

Now government intervention in the market place is not always a bad thing. Left to itself, the inevitable logic of the market is that everything has its price, and it ends with buying and selling labor contracts that often result in conditions worse than slavery. For those who doubt that, look into labor conditions at the factories of William Lloyd Garrison, the Great Abolitionist.

It is the nature of American political debate to demonize certain people and certain concepts without regard to their truth or falsehood and certainly without paying attention to the evidence. Indeed, the more truth a demon proposition contains, and the more evidence for its correctness, the louder the denunciations of anyone who has one good word to say about it. Witness what happened to Watson, when he pointed out, correctly, that Darwinian Evolution does not at all guarantee that human populations genetically isolated will evolve to have equal group intelligence; that the assumption of IQ equality among the races of man is a pious wish but has no scientific inevitability. He certainly said that to be provocative, but it remains a true statement. The result was that Watson was dismissed as Chancellor of the institute he built (which will now decline and fall), subjected to humiliating criticism and self-criticism sessions reminiscent of Mao's China, and reduced to non-humanity.

I don't think it would be a good thing for the Republic for a million families to lose their homes, even though most of them should not have bought them in the first place. They ought to experience consequences for their foolish acts of buying houses in the hopes that the rising market would let them continually refinance at rates they could afford; this despite warnings of a bubble. Of course the real villains here are the finance companies that knowingly suckered people into loans that no one in his right mind thought they could pay; after all, water runs downhill but it will never reach bottom. The bubble will expand indefinitely, or at least for a few more years. And there's so much money to be made.

Now the market remedy to this would be for the foolish buyers to default and lose their homes, and the rapacious lenders be stuck with them and have to sell at fire sale prices. Those who invested in loan companies that skated too close to the edge of the ice would lose their money. Folly and greed would be punished, not by human action, but by the remorseless operation of the market place. Lessons would be relearned, and another generation would be more wary of bubbles. The lessons would fade and it would all happen again, but not for a while.

Alas, that isn't going to happen. No politician can possible ignore the plight of a million or more people about to lose their houses "through no fault of their own", no matter that it's due to their folly. Moreover, the lobbyists for the investors in the rapacious loan companies will be quick to finance demagogues, cry RACISM!, and engage in any other political practice that will get attention off the fact that they had no sound business reason for making a $450,000 loan to an illegal immigrant with an income of $12 an hour at best when he could get work (an actual example I saw in the LA Times; the Times take was that this poor chap was going to lose his house, and he and the 12 relatives who lived there would be homeless).

The Fascist view, that government needs to step in and ameliorate class warfare by forcing the classes to work together, is not altogether a bad thing. It is certainly the case that class warfare can cripple a state and hurts everyone.

The problem with Fascism is the general problem of overly powerful government: instead of learning about economics and the forces of the market place, or inventing something new, or even working hard and saving money, the key to success is manipulation of bureaucracies. That can be through nepotism -- my cousin Takagora in personnel will ship you to Point Barrow if you don't promote me -- or through demagoguery, through intimidation or persuasion; but manipulation of the bureaucracies becomes the key to great success. If you read fiction written India about conditions under the Permit Raj after Indian Independence, or examine life in Pakistan today, you will find illustrative examples. And of course for the very rich and powerful there's also direct influence over the government at the policy level.

We're going to intervene in the housing finance market. Given the stakes, there's no chance it will be ignored.

Huey Long would be pleased.

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Re: Fascism
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 04:16:05 PM »


   What is the part of Fascism that makes a society participateing in facism prone to extreme actions and misuse of power that caricterised the Italian and German Facism?

    Facism would not have a bad reputation if it were not for the millions of deaths attached to it.

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Re: Fascism
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 07:44:43 AM »
Facism would not have a bad reputation if it were not for the millions of deaths attached to it.

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Fascism is in no way democratic. It involves persuasion and punishment of its dissenters.
Mussolini's Blackshirts were fond of kidnapping dissenting unionits, reporters and pouring a pint or two of mineral oil down their gullets.

Try doing this yourself sometime and see if it makes you tearn for a repeat performance.

The Corporate State organization of Fascist Italy is the nucleus of Khadaffi's Libyan Jamahuriayyat.

I hardly think that asking a lender to continue charging the same interest rate is any sort of Fascism. No one is forced to accept the terms. It is voluntary, and it might just save the industry from greater losses. 5% is a better deal than 0% and a loss of capital, after all. The NRA Blue Eagle was also purely voluntary. If you agree to the terms, you get to display the eagle, which might bring you more business.
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Re: Fascism
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 09:28:52 AM »
I think all parties, Fascist, Nazi, Democratic, Republican, Socialist, were influenced by Marx's class war theories and realized in one way or another that the democratic forces unleashed by the French and American Revolutions changed the power imbalance between the ruling classes on the one hand and the workers and peasants on the other, in ways that, overall, favoured the working class.  In the absence of control by naked power, all realized that concessions and appeals would have to be made by the ruling classes, particularly to the urban proletariat.

Mussolini, as everyone knows, begain as a socialist.  Hitler's political start came when he infiltrated the Deutsche Arbeiters Partei or DAP, (German Workers' Party) a splinter group of fifty-odd workers who had developed nationalist and anti-Semitic beliefs that took them out of the socialist mainstream, and changed its name to National-Sozialistischen Deutsche Arbeiters Partei, or NSDAP, commonly abbreviated to the Nazi Party.   Well, Stalin began as a seminarian.  It makes about as much sense, for those reasons, to label Fascism "Socialist" as it does to label Communism "Russian Orthodox Christian."  In Mussolini's case, we see a simple case of personal development in which a man moves away from his early thinking and comes to reject large parts of it.  In Hitler's case, I think we have a man who was already a vicious anti-Semite and fanatic nationalist and militarist, on a mission from the army to infiltrate revolutionary workers' groups, who realizes that his anti-Semitic, nationalistic, militaristic views have no hope of general acceptance unless they also can take the wind out of Communist sails by offering benefits to the working classes similar to what the Communists were offering.  In that regard, he is more akin to FDR and the New Deal than he is to Communism.  Similarly his benefits to the working class are "Communistic," but in reality they are offered for ulterior, non-Communist goals - - in Hitler's case, to defeat a feared Communist insurrection or political victory, in FDR's case, to stop the appeal of Communism to the American working class and preserve the power relationships between the ruling classes on the one hand and the workers and farmers on the other.

Pournelle deliberately downplays the role of racism, nationalism, militarism and (in the German version of fascism) anti-Semitism in distinguishing both Nazism and Fascism from Communism.  The left was famously international and cosmopolitan, recognizing class alliances across national boundaries, whereas the right depended on nationalism and militarism for its appeal to the masses.  The Holocaust began in Eastern Europe with Hitler's "Kommissar Order" to execute on the spot any captured Communist Party Commissars, many if not most of whom were Jews.  Fascist propaganda of both Italy and Germany both stressed nationalist opposition to the "Bolshevist terror" which was invariably pitched to racial fears of Jewish and/or Asiatic hordes descending upon white, Christian Europe.

Another ridiculous feature of the article is that it totally ignores the financing of the German Nazi party, which depended on wealthy German and American industrialists.  The international support for the Nazi regime came primarily from the ultra-rich of Europe and America, and the opposition to it from outside Germany was from factions identified with the Labour-Left sectors, particularly the labour unions.  As a matter of fact, the British government assured the Spanish fascists (and their Nazi and Italian Fascist military allies) of victory in the Spanish Civil War when it froze the assets of the Spanish Republic, to the outrage of the British Labour Party.

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Re: Fascism
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 06:22:15 PM »
Gary,

Are you able to READ that?  I fear I don't find it interesting enough.

As to your correspondent, his paragraphs are not well made, and I have problems following what he is trying to say since he switches from trivial to argumentative without a lot of transition.  I have got old enough that I don't spend a lot of time reading stuff by people who don't think logically

-- I don't have time to read a lot of good stuff I ought to read, so using up more on that sort of thing  isn't a good investment.

As an example:

Pournelle deliberately downplays the role of racism, nationalism, militarism and (in the German version of fascism) anti-Semitism in distinguishing both Nazism and Fascism from Communism.  The left was famously international and cosmopolitan, recognizing class alliances across national boundaries, whereas the right depended on nationalism and militarism for its appeal to the masses.

Is pure propaganda. Does anyone remember the Doctor's Plot? The Refuseniks? The "nationalities problem" of the USSR?  And so forth. As I said, I just don't have time to waste. You can prove anything if you make up your data.

As to class alliances across national boundaries, I presume he means the aristocratic codes of honor and chivalry, famously left wing beliefs...

I really haven't time to get into arguments and God knows people who say things like that will argue.

Had he sent his letter to me I may or may not have posted it with comments, but I don't feel any such obligation given the provenance.

Incidentally, I didn't say because I thought it obvious, but now I wonder :

I didn't mention that Fascism is nationalistic for the same reason that I don't mention that the sun is shining when it's daylight. That was the essence of fascism, national interest above class interest.  Of course that is true of most political parties, which is why the left often calls any party that looks to national interest "fascist".  But then people like that have a great affinity for using that kind of argument, another reason I don't much care to debate with them. They never follow civilized rules.


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Re: Fascism
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 06:36:58 PM »


   What is the part of Fascism that makes a society participateing in facism prone to extreme actions and misuse of power that caricterised the Italian and German Facism?

    Facism would not have a bad reputation if it were not for the millions of deaths attached to it.

Spoken like a true fascist. I am actually surprised at you.

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Re: Fascism
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 12:48:57 AM »


   What is the part of Fascism that makes a society participateing in facism prone to extreme actions and misuse of power that caricterised the Italian and German Facism?

    Facism would not have a bad reputation if it were not for the millions of deaths attached to it.

Spoken like a true fascist. I am actually surprised at you.

A true Fascist could say such a thing , but what use would he have for it? The real danger is that something very like Facism will come along with a cleaned up face and a pretty name but the same appeals and tactics up its sleeves , such a thingmight very well do well codemning Facism in harsh words as it built it anew with plenty of whitewash.

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 06:15:59 AM »
Wow, so Pournelle is just another phony intellectual with an extremely thin skin, who responds to any well directed attack on his silly and shallow beliefs with - - - wait for it! - - ad hominem attacks.  Why am I not surprised?

Where to start?  First of all, by identifying, without really responding to, the ad hominem attacks, not in a tit-for-tat round of reciprocal belittlement, but merely to comment upon their irrational and/or petty nature.  "I fear I don't find it interesting enough" and like comments, nevertheless about 21 lines of "uninteresting" drivel is worth 16 lines of the great thinker's rebuttal.  Supposedly, I am "argumentative" - - hilarious, the great Pournelle finds argument - - argument, ladies and gentlemen - - in the hallowed confines of a debating club!!  Is nothing sacred?  This guy, not to put too fine a point on it, must be a fucking moron!  Professor, I am very surprised that you can take this kind of garbage seriously. 

Moving from the silly and the irrational to the petty and the trivial:  "his paragraphs are not well made."  OUCH!!  yIKES!!  I know that, Professor.  But I'm a busy man, not a professional writer.  Often all I can produce is a rushed, stream-of-consciousness torrent of words, edited on the run, akin to the efforts of a one-armed juggler faced with too many balls at the same time, so prolific are the errors of fact and logic that I have to deal with in stuff like Pournelle's.  However, I do re-read after posting (19 times out of 20) and, where warranted, make corrections in the interests of clarity.  I may be unduly flattering myself here, but I don't think there are too many members of this group as presently constituted who have any trouble at all understanding anything I write.  Pournelle either has some serious difficulty in reading for comprehension or is being less than honest with you as to what he can readily understand and what he can't.

And from the petty and the trivial to the hypocritical and the evasive:  <<I really haven't time to get into arguments and God knows people who say things like that will argue.>>  Also hilarious.  As for his "not having the time to get into arguments," everything the guy writes is an argument.   You can translate the comment as, "I don't have very much to say about the substance of his criticism, because most of what I write is pure BS and the guy nailed me on it."  Or (alternative translation) - - "I just write the shit, I don't defend it."

Well, let's not be too harsh on poor old Jerry.  After all, he did attempt to deal with ONE of my arguments substantively.  To my point that the left was international and cosmopolitan as opposed to fascism's nationalism and militarism, Pournelle cites the Doctors' Plot, the Refuseniks and the nationalities problems of the U.S.S.R.   

The Doctors' Plot, to the extent that antisemitism was a factor, was a Stalinist deviation from the true path of socialism and condemned as such by Nikita Khruschev at the 20th Party Congress following the death of Stalin.  Every party and every ideology has its deviationists, and it's the oldest trick in the book to define a party or an ideology by the actions of those who deviate from its path.  That's pure sophistry.

The Refuseniks (Jews denied the right to emigrate) and the U.S.S.R.'s "nationalities problem" were pretty much the same kind of thing, a conflict between the international and cosmopolitan nature of Communism on the one hand and the nationalistic leanings of Jews and various Asian nationalities on the other.  The Jews were denied the right to emigrate (guaranteed, as it happens, by the UN Charter) in order to deny them a forum from which to denounce both Communism and the U.S.S.R. as the socialist motherland. This might have been an extreme restriction of freedom of speech, but it had nothing to do with nationalism or internationalism, as Pournelle wrongly infers.  The "nationalities problem" was the exact opposite of what Pournelle infers - - when the nationalism of various groups in Soviet Central Asia came into conflict with the cosmopolitanism of the Communist ideal, the nationalism of the minorities was forcefully suppressed.  As individuals, members of those ethnic groups held high positions in the armed forces and other institutions of the U.S.S.R., something that would have been unthinkable in a Fascist or Nazi regime, where racism and nationalism were enforced on the individual level as well as the national level.

Pournelle attempted to challenge only one other substantive point that I made, and here again his effort was pathetic.

<<As to class alliances across national boundaries, I presume he means the aristocratic codes of honor and chivalry, famously left wing beliefs...>>

It should hardly need pointing out, but there is a world of difference between a code of conduct and a class alliance.  Although members of the ruling classes may have shared a common code of conduct, there was no class alliance across national boundaries.  All the wars of Europe with the possible exception of the French Revolutionary Wars were fought because of conflicts between the ruling elites of one country and another.  Chivalry was anything but a promoter of internationalism.  It would take a truly third-rate mind to confuse the two.

If your friend has anything further to say in defence of his idiocies, I'd love to hear it.  Everyone needs a good laugh now and then.  Tell him I'm sorry about the paragraphing, but I'm aware of the problem and I'm working on it.


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Re: Fascism
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 09:06:45 AM »
A true Fascist could say such a thing , but what use would he have for it? The real danger is that something very like Facism will come along with a cleaned up face and a pretty name but the same appeals and tactics up its sleeves , such a thingmight very well do well codemning Facism in harsh words as it built it anew with plenty of whitewash.

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Something like Pat Robertson? Something like George "if you're not for us, you're against us" W. Bush?

Something that might incarcerate people for years with no trial, no habeas corpus?
Something that tortures people and claims that their fave torture techniques are not torture?
Something that hides and destroys its records?
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 09:57:24 AM »
<<Something like Pat Robertson? Something like George "if you're not for us, you're against us" W. Bush?

<<Something that might incarcerate people for years with no trial, no habeas corpus?
<<Something that tortures people and claims that their fave torture techniques are not torture?
<<Something that hides and destroys its records?>>

Oh, God no.  Don't you SEE?  Fascism is left-wing, so these guys can't be fascists.  They're all RIGHT-wing.

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 10:25:29 AM »
Wow, so Pournelle is just another phony intellectual with an extremely thin skin, who responds to any well directed attack on his silly and shallow beliefs with - - - wait for it! - - ad hominem attacks.  Why am I not surprised?

Where to start?  First of all, by identifying, without really responding to, the ad hominem attacks, not in a tit-for-tat round of reciprocal belittlement, but merely to comment upon their irrational and/or petty nature.  "I fear I don't find it interesting enough" and like comments, nevertheless about 21 lines of "uninteresting" drivel is worth 16 lines of the great thinker's rebuttal.  Supposedly, I am "argumentative" - - hilarious, the great Pournelle finds argument - - argument, ladies and gentlemen - - in the hallowed confines of a debating club!!  Is nothing sacred?  This guy, not to put too fine a point on it, must be a fucking moron!  Professor, I am very surprised that you can take this kind of garbage seriously. 

Moving from the silly and the irrational to the petty and the trivial:  "his paragraphs are not well made."  OUCH!!  yIKES!!  I know that, Professor.  But I'm a busy man, not a professional writer.  Often all I can produce is a rushed, stream-of-consciousness torrent of words, edited on the run, akin to the efforts of a one-armed juggler faced with too many balls at the same time, so prolific are the errors of fact and logic that I have to deal with in stuff like Pournelle's.  However, I do re-read after posting (19 times out of 20) and, where warranted, make corrections in the interests of clarity.  I may be unduly flattering myself here, but I don't think there are too many members of this group as presently constituted who have any trouble at all understanding anything I write.  Pournelle either has some serious difficulty in reading for comprehension or is being less than honest with you as to what he can readily understand and what he can't.

And from the petty and the trivial to the hypocritical and the evasive:  <<I really haven't time to get into arguments and God knows people who say things like that will argue.>>  Also hilarious.  As for his "not having the time to get into arguments," everything the guy writes is an argument.   You can translate the comment as, "I don't have very much to say about the substance of his criticism, because most of what I write is pure BS and the guy nailed me on it."  Or (alternative translation) - - "I just write the shit, I don't defend it."

Well, let's not be too harsh on poor old Jerry.  After all, he did attempt to deal with ONE of my arguments substantively.  To my point that the left was international and cosmopolitan as opposed to fascism's nationalism and militarism, Pournelle cites the Doctors' Plot, the Refuseniks and the nationalities problems of the U.S.S.R.   

The Doctors' Plot, to the extent that antisemitism was a factor, was a Stalinist deviation from the true path of socialism and condemned as such by Nikita Khruschev at the 20th Party Congress following the death of Stalin.  Every party and every ideology has its deviationists, and it's the oldest trick in the book to define a party or an ideology by the actions of those who deviate from its path.  That's pure sophistry.

The Refuseniks (Jews denied the right to emigrate) and the U.S.S.R.'s "nationalities problem" were pretty much the same kind of thing, a conflict between the international and cosmopolitan nature of Communism on the one hand and the nationalistic leanings of Jews and various Asian nationalities on the other.  The Jews were denied the right to emigrate (guaranteed, as it happens, by the UN Charter) in order to deny them a forum from which to denounce both Communism and the U.S.S.R. as the socialist motherland. This might have been an extreme restriction of freedom of speech, but it had nothing to do with nationalism or internationalism, as Pournelle wrongly infers.  The "nationalities problem" was the exact opposite of what Pournelle infers - - when the nationalism of various groups in Soviet Central Asia came into conflict with the cosmopolitanism of the Communist ideal, the nationalism of the minorities was forcefully suppressed.  As individuals, members of those ethnic groups held high positions in the armed forces and other institutions of the U.S.S.R., something that would have been unthinkable in a Fascist or Nazi regime, where racism and nationalism were enforced on the individual level as well as the national level.

Pournelle attempted to challenge only one other substantive point that I made, and here again his effort was pathetic.

<<As to class alliances across national boundaries, I presume he means the aristocratic codes of honor and chivalry, famously left wing beliefs...>>

It should hardly need pointing out, but there is a world of difference between a code of conduct and a class alliance.  Although members of the ruling classes may have shared a common code of conduct, there was no class alliance across national boundaries.  All the wars of Europe with the possible exception of the French Revolutionary Wars were fought because of conflicts between the ruling elites of one country and another.  Chivalry was anything but a promoter of internationalism.  It would take a truly third-rate mind to confuse the two.

If your friend has anything further to say in defence of his idiocies, I'd love to hear it.  Everyone needs a good laugh now and then.  Tell him I'm sorry about the paragraphing, but I'm aware of the problem and I'm working on it.



Let's see. Seeing as how he is one of the most foremost science fiction authors of our time and a brilliant man, I'll leave it to others to determine whom just might be an expert at SOME issues anyway. As he is currently busy writing several books, I won't bother him any more. He was kind enoguh to respond to me anyway, being as busy as he is. You might learn a lot, however, form checking his site at http://www.pournelle.com. Anyone who spells America the way you do, and speaks about this great nation the way you do, is sure to learn from him, since you appararently are learning ZIP here in this forum, MT. Then again, if I lived in a country who voluntarily made themselves nuclear-free in defense matters, perhaps I shouldn't wonder. Nice to have someone larger around to protect you, eh?
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Re: Fascism
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 05:31:33 PM »
Wow, so Pournelle is just another phony intellectual with an extremely thin skin, who responds to any well directed attack on his silly and shallow beliefs with - - - wait for it! - - ad hominem attacks.  Why am I not surprised?

Where to start?  First of all, by identifying, without really responding to, the ad hominem attacks, not in a tit-for-tat round of reciprocal belittlement, but merely to comment upon their irrational and/or petty nature.  "I fear I don't find it interesting enough" .................

Let's see. Seeing as how he is one of the most foremost science fiction authors of our time and a brilliant man, I'll leave it to others to determine whom just might be an expert at SOME issues anyway. As he is currently busy writing several books, I won't bother him any more. ..............


We could certainly use a member like him if here were interested in being disagreed with .

We have got lots of that , sometime we have really good quality disagreement and sometimes we have run of the mill disagreement , but you can pretty much depend on finding some disagreement of some sort every day here.

Wouldn't that be valuable for a writer? Few fictions , are not about people in disagreement . Much history is about people in disagreement. It is one of the normals of the human condition , it is a characteristic of a particular culture how disagreement is dealt with , like most very important things we learn it from our parents.

I read a interesting Novel once named "Footfall" in which one of the main themes was Cultural difference in regards to the settling of fights and social ranking. The Aliens just didn't get it , why their cultural norms didn't play with Humans. In a subtle way this is about humans, many of us expect our norms for settling arguments to be universally understood and accepted , nonpulsed often by this aren't we?


By the way ,he can be introduced ,or he can be anonymous ,his choice.