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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on May 15, 2012, 10:50:13 PM
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ABC News Exclusive:
Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting
"Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose,
a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury..."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532#.T7MGlvlrVZ4 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532#.T7MGlvlrVZ4)
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He was quite adamant on how "obvious" it was that Zimmerman wasn't hurt in the least. Man, don't you hate when those facts keep getting in the way of an already made up mind of what had to have happened
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He did not appear to be harmed in any way.
So what? He still killed Trayvon.
He still disobeyed the police.
He still was prowling around with a gun looking for trouble.
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Minus the continued unvalidated opinions of prowling & "looking for trouble", he still had every legal right to do all of it, including carrying a gun
That's "so what"
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I consider it evidence indicating that multiple blows were thrown before the gun was revieled.
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Could we not use the Xo method of deduction as to what must have happened as to proclaim that if it were not for the actions of Martin, who "obviously" ambushed Zimmerman, while Zimmerman was performing his neighborhood watch duties, when Zimmerman lost sight of someone he considered suspicious, in the course of defending himself, fatally shot Martin, in an unfortunate turn of events
Sounds just as rational, if not more so, of some effort of "looking for trouble", given the fact of Zimmerman's injuries we now know of, and the fact in lack of any other gun weilding confrontations, every other time Zimmerman was performing his neighborhood watch duties
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What's this??....more FACTS that keep watering down the narrative that Zimmerman was out to kill some miniority??
SANFORD, Fla. —
WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.
The information could support George Zimmerman's claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.
The autopsy results come as Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O’Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.
O’Mara wouldn't comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it's better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.
WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.
When you compare Trayvon’s non-fatal injury with Zimmerman's bloody head wounds, the autopsy evidence is better for the defense, Sheaffer said.
“It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.
The injury to Martin’s knuckle also fits with Zimmerman's story that before he shot and killed Martin, Martin had broken his nose and knocked him to the ground, slamming his head on the sidewalk.
But Sheaffer said there could be another explanation for Martin's knuckle injury.
“It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself,” Sheaffer said.
Zimmerman shot and killed the unarmed teenager almost three months ago after calling 911 to report the teenager was acting suspiciously.
Zimmerman said Martin threw the first punch and that he opened fire in self-defense after his screams for help went unanswered.
The FBI was not able to determine whether it was Zimmerman or Trayvon who could be heard crying out for help in 911 calls.
The defense is trying to decide what evidence it wants a judge to keep confidential before the media gets a chance to see it, but WFTV is being told that could happen in the next week or so.
In the meantime, there’s new information surfacing about Zimmerman.
ABC News said it has obtained Zimmerman's medical report from the day after the killing. According to ABC, the report shows Zimmerman had a broken nose and abrasions on the back of his head.
Damn facts (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/autopsy-results-show-trayvon-martin-had-injuries-h/nN6gs/)
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I did not state that Zimmerman's nose was unbroken. I did not imply it, either. All I said was that he looked unharmed in thr fleeting video of him at the police station.
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OBVIOUSLY he was not "unharmed"
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Apparently the DOJ has no faith in the judicial system and is looking at charging Zimmerman with a hate crime.
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Good gravy.......BASED ON WHAT?? This they want to pursue, but a slam dunk case involving the Black Panthers they punt?? :o
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It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. I suspect they don't expect to get the verdict they wish for at the state level.
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I'd concur with your suspicion, as more and more facts come out, making a murder 2 conviction, quite the mountain to climb
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I did not state that Zimmerman's nose was unbroken. I did not imply it, either.
Oh really?
See below from thread 'Bout Time
The claim is that Zimmerman broke his nose. It does not appear to be broken.
http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=16674.msg140311#msg140311 (http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=16674.msg140311#msg140311)
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Sure fits a working definition of implied. If it does not appear so, then "obviously" it wasn't. Right?
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Welcome, to Bizzaro world.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us/whites-account-for-under-half-of-births-in-us.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us/whites-account-for-under-half-of-births-in-us.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss)
“The question is, how do we reimagine the social contract when the generations don’t look like one another?” said Marcelo Suarez-Orozco, co-director of Immigration studies at New York University.
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I wonder if break ins are down in that neighborhood after the shooting?
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I wonder if break ins are down in that neighborhood after the shooting?
Wouldn't prove much if so.
Whoever was breaking in might have moved his base of operations down the road to a place that has less national attention.
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It might prove that a well publicized neighborhood watch has a positive impact on crime.
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By now many in that neighborhood might prefer the thefts.
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I don't see why.
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Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's
Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting
May 17, 2012
"The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852)