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kimba1

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2007, 10:57:23 PM »
thanks I forgot to mention the village on elephant ground.
they are not gonna give a damn about elephants right to that land
the very idea that these highly dangerous pest can dictate where they should build thier homes is just not gonna fly


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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2007, 11:14:50 PM »
thanks I forgot to mention the village on elephant ground.
they are not gonna give a damn about elephants right to that land
the very idea that these highly dangerous pest can dictate where they should build thier homes is just not gonna fly



however, my guess is that short of eradicating the elephant we can teach them a lot sooner than said elephants.

I have watched a few shows (being a HD discovery channel addict) were the natives actually learn how spot and avoid dangerous situations as they attempt to live in and around other species.  I watched a show were the natives warned people not to get in the water because the cuttlefish would swarm them.

Let's face it... it's a real jungle out there.

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2007, 12:31:42 AM »
So, is there anything we can do to mitigate this environmental disaster?

Cynthia

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2007, 01:06:42 AM »
Shouldn't the rain forest be gone by now?

What?
Sad comment.

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2007, 08:10:43 AM »
So, is there anything we can do to mitigate this environmental disaster?

Actually there is but it is doubtful that we will take advantage of it.

It is called being responsible and we are greatly responsible for the demise of the rain forests.

We use fossil fuels in large hungry bites and send pollution up into the atmosphere...we eradicate mile up mile of natural flora and fauna driving the native animal life into smaller (and not always compatible) areas.

Now don't get me wrong... I am not suggesting that we stop driving our cars and all move into barracks... but if we save energy were we can and stop with the urban sprawl... we could make a difference.  Certainly we would slow down the impact.

I am certainly a mixed metaphor when it comes to consumption.  I bought a used home in an established neighborhood, I keep my air conditioner set at 83 degrees and I never turn on my heat...though I do use my heat pump for the pool for february and march.  I drive an SUV but only work 3 miles from home.  If I could afford another car, I would get a hybrid for my everyday driving and save the SUV for when my home turns into Vacation florida...

So I guess what I am saying is that we all need to make a few concessions were we can.... to look for other methods of fuel (not to replace but to share in the market) and to stop just gobbling up habitat.  Oh... and plant more trees... I have planted 30 trees since I purchased my home in 2004.  They are great air filters and shade the ground so that ground cover doesn't get burned up from the hot sun.

Let's not forget the "dust bowl".... that was a far reaching environmental nightmare... but we got past it and fixed it.


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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2007, 08:54:09 AM »
>>What? Sad comment.<<

My point was that 30 years ago the rain forest wasn't given 30 years to live. Yet, there it is.

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2007, 11:25:28 PM »
So, is there anything we can do to mitigate this environmental disaster?


What are we willing to do?


Shall we have widespread self discipline for the purpose of getting our weight off of the environment?

Can we achieve  reduction in the human population of the Earth without resort to injustice?

Should we be interventionist in the economic and environmental policy's of smaller nations?

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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2007, 12:14:28 AM »
>>What? Sad comment.<<

My point was that 30 years ago the rain forest wasn't given 30 years to live. Yet, there it is.

Yes it is......Our Rain Forests MUST BE for at least another century....God forbid......
How many years have they been GROWING....oh god...so sad.  so sad.....that is sad.
Who the hell among us wants the cows to win this one?

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2007, 12:26:14 AM »
>>What? Sad comment.<<

My point was that 30 years ago the rain forest wasn't given 30 years to live. Yet, there it is.

Yes it is......Our Rain Forests MUST BE for at least another century....God forbid......
How many years have they been GROWING....oh god...so sad.  so sad.....that is sad.
Who the hell among us wants the cows to win this one?


Can we learn to eat animals can can be raised in an unmodified rain forest?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapir

Can cowboys learn to ranch raise Tapirs on ranches thick with trees?

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2007, 12:46:56 AM »
Being an avid hunter and fisherman

Avid..... I love fishing. Have fished in a "natural  lake" 14k feet up....that's the best.
Miss that.

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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2007, 12:56:54 AM »
tricky
catfish is a bottom feeding fish that can thrive almost anywhere.
it`s also one of the tastiest fish to me
but it`s extremely slow for people to accept to eat
it`s a butt ugly fish that taste kinda muddy(bottom-feeder)
Deer I`m told can reproduce so fast that it can produce much more meat that cattle and can be raised anywhere.
but people are still not willing to eat bambi
so eating a tapir will be a tough sell

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2007, 12:58:24 AM »
tricky
catfish is a bottom feeding fish that can thrive almost anywhere.
it`s also one of the tastiest fish to me
but it`s extremely slow for people to accept to eat
it`s a butt ugly fish that taste kinda muddy(bottom-feeder)
Deer I`m told can reproduce so fast that it can produce much more meat that cattle and can be raised anywhere.
but people are still not willing to eat bambi
so eating a tapir will be a tough sell

Gotta get some celebritys to eat it .

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2007, 11:53:42 PM »
tricky
catfish is a bottom feeding fish that can thrive almost anywhere.
it`s also one of the tastiest fish to me
but it`s extremely slow for people to accept to eat
it`s a butt ugly fish that taste kinda muddy(bottom-feeder)
Deer I`m told can reproduce so fast that it can produce much more meat that cattle and can be raised anywhere.
but people are still not willing to eat bambi
so eating a tapir will be a tough sell

Gotta get some celebritys to eat it .

Tough sell?
Papppppa raaazzzzis are bottom feeders.
Forget the Celebs.....
Those assholes who kill while making a buck for the sake of suffering....have got to be the worst.

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2007, 03:21:59 PM »
Touche!

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Re: Is killing the Amazon a Global issue?
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2007, 03:29:04 PM »
Your theory that people will not eat ugly animals sounds a bit silly.

Are turkeys attractive to anything other than other turkeys?

Brahma cattle are butt ugly, and yet Mickey D grinds up millions of them and sells them every day.

Tapir is not too bad. I ate some in Belize, once. There, they are known as "forest cows".

It doesn't taste like chicken. More like beef. This particular tapir was boiled with beans and served over rice, and I am not completely sure it was a tapir, as I did not see it except as bloody chunks of meat that could have been anything of a similar size.

Belize is a great place to diet. 300,000 people and not one can cook worth a damn.
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