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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Interesting Conundrum facing Obama & DC Dems
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2011, 05:08:42 PM »
The late al-Qaida founder knows that intelligence officials can't threaten him or try to strong-arm him; they can only read him his Miranda rights.
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What the deceased Osama knows is rather immaterial, as I see it. I bet they did not bother to read him any Miranda rights, either. I am pretty sure that the goal of the mission was to kill him on sight, though I doubt they will be officially declaring this. It seems to me that this was the best solution. After all, he admitted his guilt many times,and it is possible that by killing him when they did, some operation or another was averted.


It is not by any means certain that they could have extracted any information from him more useful than that they took in the tons of stuff taken during the raid.

And yes, I would have been equally happy had Juniorbush done exactly the same thing. But I note that he didn't.
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Re: Interesting Conundrum facing Obama & DC Dems
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2011, 05:37:11 PM »
The late al-Qaida founder knows that intelligence officials can't threaten him or try to strong-arm him; they can only read him his Miranda rights.
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It is not by any means certain that they could have extracted any information from him more useful than that they took in the tons of stuff taken during the raid.

What IS CERTAIN is that they DID extract vital information from the use of waterboarding, that led to Bin Laden's demise, that has been deemed off limits by this adminstration. 

Yet at the same time, executing an unarmed Muslim "suspected" as the mastermind in the 911 attacks, while other Muslims had this administration pushing prosecution in a civil court, with all the rights granted any American citizen, including the right to be presumed innocent, until found guilty.  At least until enough public outcry and criticism made that politically unsavory

What's up with that?  You'd think Obama was treating this like a war.  Oh wait....IT IS.  Yet Holder is treating this like ..... Criminal activity?


And yes, I would have been equally happy had Juniorbush done exactly the same thing. But I note that he didn't.

Had they located him, he would have.  Prescious little doubt of that.  Merely that his policies, put in place, is what allowed Obama to say "go".  Then again, you'd likely be calling into question "the timing" of it, implying that Bush him him for a while and were just waiting for the right time
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Re: Interesting Conundrum facing Obama & DC Dems
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 08:11:05 PM »
I could have saved Osama Bin Laden.


Oh how stupid he was , not to have asked me for advice!

I knew the perfect solution for him and I am certain it would have worked, I would not even have charged him for the council.

I can imagine the call......


  OBL .. Hello , ...Hello..

Plane..Hello?

OBL .. Hello there is this Plane _talker?

Plane..Yes this is Plane _talker.

OBL .. Oh finally , you have no idea how difficult it is to find a secure connection that isn't being bugged. This is Osama Bin Laden.

Plane.. Oh Hi Sam, how are things in the cavern?

OBL .. It isn't the adventure I thought it would be , I can't even get away from my wives for half a minute, we are just always here , getting cabin fever and getting on each others nerves , and getting pregnant.

Plane..  I could tell you what is causing part of that Sam, but I don't know if you would want to quit it.

OBL .. Haha Plane, .. very funny for you but I have a real problem and I want to know how you would fix it.

Plane.. I know a little about your problem, and I do have an idea about fixing it.

OBL .. Well don"t tell me to die in a blaze of glory I get that from Ayman al-Zawahri  every time I see him , the big phony, I don't see him traveling without his female disguise chador!

Plane.. I wouldn't think this was a good time to try that ,  but you do need to do something , people are starting to think you are already dead, that is practically as good as irrelevant. If you had died as a Myrtyer in your prime you might be sainted by now, but after playing rabbit for a decade it doesn't present the same romantic death wish anymore, If you just keep waiting those who will never forgive might somewhat forget.

OBL..  Do you really think I have a chance of being forgotten?

Plane..No not really , people here use your name interchangeably with Satan , Ol'Scratch is more likely to be forgiven and forgotten than you.

OBL..Ha de ha ha, Plane do you really have an idea or are you going to yank my chain till Dick Marchinco knocks on my door?

Plane..OK,.. ok ,Sam I know you are in a tight and I know what to do about it . so Listen close and be amazed at the simplicity.

OBL..  Come on stop stalling!

Plane..  Walk into the Danish or Belgin embassy and ask to be taken to the Hague.

OBL..Be serious Plane , I want something I could really do, not just to save myself but to advance my cause .

Plane.. I am serious Sam , just imagine , you being carried to Europe and put up in style in a country that is terrified of you


OBL..  I do miss striking fear in foreign hearts.

Plane.. Yes well imagine never having to pay for a meal again and your wives allowed in for scheduled connubial visits, best of all fear free opportunity's to speak to the press almost every day.

OBL..But they would put me on trial...

Plane..Sure they would, but they can't give you the death penalty  nor hand you to an ally that might.

OBL..Hm-mm that is true , but I might never get out of prison.

Plane.. So what, Sam ol pal , do you think you have been a free man the last five or ten years?, Haven't you been closeted in since you escaped Tora Bora? You might as well be in a prison that no one is gonna drop a cluster bomb onto. I doubt that you will outlive your trial , with simple tricks the lawyers you can hire in Europe can make your trial last fifty years and put you on the front page every month.

OBL.. You say that I could have connubial visits?

Plane..  I can't see how you could be denied , while your trial is going on you are not convicted of anything , so you might as well be innocent , but you can alledge bad treatment if you want better treatment. You pick the right Europeans and you will practically have a staff of servants dressed as prison guards.

OBL..  So if I make sure I am captured by Danes or Belgins...

Plane..Or Spanyards ...

OBL.. Or Spanyards yes of course....

Plane..  It would be easy and it would simplify your life, add excitement and put you in a constant pulpit.

OBL..  I think you have talked me into it , but won't it be dangerous?

Plane.. Nah , you can rent an airplane and fly to Europe , or just walk dramatically into an embassy, you can probably hold a press conference on the steps of the embassy, ... What is that noise ?

OBL..Helicopters , they overfly all the time I am near a base.... oy those are close,...

Plane.. I am loosing you r connection...

OBL..  I think I will do it , but right now there seems to be some comm otion out in my yard, I better go see what is going on.

Plane..  Ok Sama, Call me back later , and do pack some sunscreen .... Bye
OBL..Sallam Alechem Plane

Plane.. Peace for you too you Sum beech.



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Re: Interesting Conundrum facing Obama & DC Dems
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 08:28:47 PM »
Saying that bin laden was captured only because of waterboarding is simply speculation. There is no proof of this.
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Re: Interesting Conundrum facing Obama & DC Dems
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2011, 11:27:24 PM »
Saying that bin laden was captured only because of waterboarding is simply speculation. There is no proof of this.

1st off...Plane, OUTSTANDING POST  *golf clap*

2ndly, NO ONE EVER SAID WATERBOARDING ALONE captured Bin Laden.  So don't try to pull that crap, Xo.  Merely that it was integral in identifying and verifying bin Laden's trusted courier, that then led to bin Laden's location

And THAT'S A FACT, not speculation
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