Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood

[Christians4LessGvt]

How is a refusal to participate in a silly speculation "lying"?

Nice dodge again...anything but try to defend your positions.

Lying = "you want to turn Quebec into a Muslim state"
Lying = "you want to save Mother Teresa from being beheaded"

But the diversion is working, we are spending time retracing your lies
instead of you answering a question that you know exposes your false logic.

It was never a question that when your back is against a wall you become intellectually dishonest.
That's what liberals must do when challenged to defend their illogical positions.
As Michael Savage says "it's a mental disorder".

[Christians4LessGvt]

Actually everything is relative.
 To some William T. Sherman is a hero.
To others he was the cruelest general the US ever produced.

Sure everything is "relative"...whatever that means....
To some Charles Manson is a hero.
To others Charles Manson is an evil being.
But because two sides have different conclusions
doesn't mean they are of equal value or one is not right.

Some think Jim Jones in Guyana is a hero.
Most dont.
To do you think there is no "right" answer about whether Jim Jones was a hero or not?
Is there no right or wrong BT? Is it just defined by whatever someone wants?
If Hitler thinks gassing Jews is right, then is that position equal to that it is not
right to gas a million people?.....is there no "right" answer as to whether gassing
millions of people, women and children is a "right" thing to do?

You say we are allowed to support insurgents and sabotage in Iran because we can,
but OBL was not allowed to fly planes into the WTC even though he could?
War is Hell.

OBL was "allowed" to fly planes into the WTC because Clinton didnt kill him when he could.
The 5th Column is very dangerous to our country.

Of course war "should be" hell.......but it's not.
The difference is we have the military ability to stop Iran
they dont have the military ability to stop us.
So when I say "because we can" if it boils down to sheer ability we can, they cant.
The problem is we have a 5th Column that refuses to allow us to use our power
and that encourages and strengthens our enemies.

How different are the Mutaween of  Saudi Arabia and the Fred Phelps's of the USA?

How different is Radical Islam and Radical Christianity in the world we live in?
Radical Islam is killing a bunch of people, radical Christianity doesnt come close.

Moral Equivalence : defining distinct and conflicting moral behaviors in similar terms. 
An author who suggests that one act of serious wrongdoing does not differ from a minor offence commits the fallacy of moral equivalence.  Many people say that "all sins are equal in God's eyes," which effectively equates ethnic cleansing with stealing a pencil. 

[Xavier_Onassis]

Beheading Mother Teresa and mentioning Quebec becoming Muslim were crap you mentioned.

Refusal to consider whatever inane hypothetical nonsense you can come up with is not lying.

[BT]

Actually everything is relative.
 To some William T. Sherman is a hero.
To others he was the cruelest general the US ever produced.

Sure everything is "relative"...whatever that means....
To some Charles Manson is a hero.
To others Charles Manson is an evil being.
But because two sides have different conclusions
doesn't mean they are of equal value or one is not right.

Some think Jim Jones in Guyana is a hero.
Most dont.
To do you think there is no "right" answer about whether Jim Jones was a hero or not?
Is there no right or wrong BT? Is it just defined by whatever someone wants?
If Hitler thinks gassing Jews is right, then is that position equal to that it is not
right to gas a million people?.....is there no "right" answer as to whether gassing
millions of people, women and children is a "right" thing to do?

You say we are allowed to support insurgents and sabotage in Iran because we can,
but OBL was not allowed to fly planes into the WTC even though he could?
War is Hell.

OBL was "allowed" to fly planes into the WTC because Clinton didnt kill him when he could.
The 5th Column is very dangerous to our country.

Of course war "should be" hell.......but it's not.
The difference is we have the military ability to stop Iran
they dont have the military ability to stop us.
So when I say "because we can" if it boils down to sheer ability we can, they cant.
The problem is we have a 5th Column that refuses to allow us to use our power
and that encourages and strengthens our enemies.

How different are the Mutaween of  Saudi Arabia and the Fred Phelps's of the USA?

How different is Radical Islam and Radical Christianity in the world we live in?
Radical Islam is killing a bunch of people, radical Christianity doesnt come close.

Moral Equivalence ? defining distinct and conflicting moral behaviors in similar terms. 
An author who suggests that one act of serious wrongdoing does not differ from a minor offence commits the fallacy of moral equivalence.  Many people say that "all sins are equal in God?s eyes," which effectively equates ethnic cleansing with stealing a pencil.

So were the Yankees right about Sherman or were the rebels right about Sherman?

If Hitler killed 6 million Jews and the Israelis killed 10 million Palestinians, who has created the larger holocaust?

[Christians4LessGvt]

Beheading Mother Teresa and mentioning Quebec becoming Muslim were crap you mentioned.

uh hello?....are you like brain dead?
I answered a BT hypothetical question (ya know the kind you refuse to answer)
about Quebec becoming Muslim
but you stated "I want to turn Quebec into a Muslim state"
which is a 100% fabrication...lie
please show where I said "i want to turn Quebec into a Muslim state".
you cant because I never said that
you lie and change words......to divert attention away from the subject

[Christians4LessGvt]

So were the Yankees right about Sherman or were the rebels right about Sherman?
If Hitler killed 6 million Jews and the Israelis killed 10 million Palestinians,
who has created the larger holocaust?

I dont know enough to comment on Sherman.

But BT your moral equivalence is amazing to watch.
It is actually kind of scary to me.....because I saw you as not that way.

So you are implying that Hitler gassing Jews
is equal to Israel at war with Palestinians
and Palestinians getting killed in this war?
I have not read of 1939 Jewish missles being
shot on a daily basis into Berlin? Were the Jews
in a declared state of war with Hitler?

You really dont see any difference?

BT you always like to put people on the defensive with your questions but
then you fail to answer so many questions yourself....so I will try another crack.
Do you think Israel has targeted innocent civilians on par with Hitler gassing
6 million Jews? You think Israel on a par of right and wrong is as bad as Adolph Hitler
and the Nazis?

[BT]

I think people do bad things in the name of God and Country all the time.

If not Hitler and the Jews, how about Americans and the Indians,
or the Israeli's and the Palestinians or the Turks and the Armenians or the Islamofascists and the rest of the world.

One action does not need to be judged as worse than another, they just don't need to be done.

[sirs]

I'm not sure that quite answered the question posed, as no one I'm aware of, Cu4 included, is claiming evil doesn't exist, or isn't performed in the name of their God or country         

[BT]

I'm not sure that quite answered the question posed, as no one I'm aware of, Cu4 included, is claiming evil doesn't exist, or isn't performed in the name of their God or country         

It answered his question succinctly. And even gave a solution. What you do with the answer is up to you.

[Christians4LessGvt]

No BT you really didnt.
I love ya man....but you do your share of "dodging".
You many times will not give a straight up answer.
I asked you specifically Hitler vs. Israel.
And you come back and basically say "many do good& bad for God and Country".
Come on man.....thats a total dodge.
You ask SIRS and I specific questions....
And I cant speak for SIRS but I mostly will stick my neck out and give you a specific answer
You on the other hand in this thread have either not answered things I have asked you
or given vague.....non-specific answers
it seeems that is your preferred method
ask questions and put others on defensive by making them give long explanations
hoping they make a mistake you can pounce on
while you come back to specific questions with vague blurry
cant be pinned down answers....less is more.... to have to defend

[sirs]

I'm not sure that quite answered the question posed..   
<Do you think Israel has targeted innocent civilians on par with Hitler gassing
6 million Jews? You think Israel on a par of right and wrong is as bad as Adolph Hitler
and the Nazis?>>...as no one I'm aware of, Cu4 included, is claiming evil doesn't exist, or isn't performed in the name of their God or country     

It answered his question succinctly. And even gave a solution.

apparently not, on either account

[BT]

Perhaps you can explain the difference between what the Nazi's did to the Jews vs what the Israeli's are doing to the Palestinians?

Seems to me both are being treated as subhumans.

[sirs]

So your answer is they're largely the same..........WOW.  Seems to me one was being executed in mass, and the other is trying to survive, with collateral death involved.  But hey, if you think that's an equivalent level of "evil", so be it

[BT]

So your answer is they're largely the same..........WOW.  Seems to me one was being executed in mass, and the other is trying to survive, with collateral death involved.  But hey, if you think that's an equivalent level of "evil", so be it

Who is trying to survive?
The Israeli's or the Palestinians?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I believe that both the Israelis and the Palestinians are trying to survive. I really doubt that either side could eliminate the other, even if they tried their best to do so.