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Under the MSM radar
« on: November 12, 2011, 04:22:12 PM »
*disclaimer......sirs' position on MSM bias is that there is a predominance of reporting by the MSM favoring 1 ideology and/or political party over the other.  It's manifested most offten by what's not reported vs what is, which should not be confused with articles that happen to be reported, merely buried or barely mentioned with any scrutiny or repetition when its about the left, vs when its about the right*

Hopefully that addresses any "incorrect" issues that some may wish to bring up with my subsequent postings in this thread     8) 

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Remember all the guff we got from the left and MSM regarding Cheney's no-bid contracts??

Cost, need questioned in $433-million smallpox drug deal
A company controlled by a longtime political donor gets a no-bid contract to supply an experimental remedy for a threat that may not exist.
By David Willman, Los Angeles Times  November 13, 2011

Over the last year, the Obama administration has aggressively pushed a $433-million plan to buy an experimental smallpox drug, despite uncertainty over whether it is needed or will work.

Senior officials have taken unusual steps to secure the contract for New York-based Siga Technologies Inc., whose controlling shareholder is billionaire Ronald O. Perelman, one of the world's richest men and a longtime Democratic Party donor.

When Siga complained that contracting specialists at the Department of Health and Human Services were resisting the company's financial demands, senior officials replaced the government's lead negotiator for the deal, interviews and documents show.

When Siga was in danger of losing its grip on the contract a year ago, the officials blocked other firms from competing.

Siga was awarded the final contract in May through a "sole-source" procurement in which it was the only company asked to submit a proposal. The contract calls for Siga to deliver 1.7 million doses of the drug for the nation's biodefense stockpile. The price of approximately $255 per dose is well above what the government's specialists had earlier said was reasonable, according to internal documents and interviews.

Once feared for its grotesque pustules and 30% death rate, smallpox was eradicated worldwide as of 1978 and is known to exist only in the locked freezers of a Russian scientific institute and the U.S. government. There is no credible evidence that any other country or a terrorist group possesses smallpox.

If there were an attack, the government could draw on $1 billion worth of smallpox vaccine it already owns to inoculate the entire U.S. population and quickly treat people exposed to the virus. The vaccine, which costs the government $3 per dose, can reliably prevent death when given within four days of exposure.

Siga's drug, an antiviral pill called ST-246, would be used to treat people who were diagnosed with smallpox too late for the vaccine to help. Yet the new drug cannot be tested for effectiveness in people because of ethical constraints — and no one knows whether animal testing could prove it would work in humans.

The government's pursuit of Siga's product raises the question: Should the U.S. buy an unproven drug for such a nebulous threat?

"We've got a vaccine that I hope we never have to use — how much more do we need?"
said Dr. Donald A. "D.A." Henderson, the epidemiologist who led the global eradication of smallpox for the World Health Organization and later helped organize U.S. biodefense efforts under President George W. Bush. "The bottom line is, we've got a limited amount of money."

Dr. Thomas M. Mack, an epidemiologist at USC's Keck School of Medicine, battled smallpox outbreaks in Pakistan and has advised the Food and Drug Administration on the virus. He called the plan to stockpile Siga's drug "a waste of time and a waste of money."

The Obama administration official who has overseen the buying of Siga's drug says she is trying to strengthen the nation's preparedness. Dr. Nicole Lurie, a presidential appointee who heads biodefense planning at Health and Human Services, cited a 2004 finding by the Bush administration that there was a "material threat" smallpox could be used as a biological weapon.

Smallpox is one of 12 pathogens for which such determinations have been made.

"I don't put probabilities around anything in terms of imminent or not," said Lurie, a physician whose experience in public health includes government service and work with the Rand Corp. "Because what I can tell you is, in the two-plus years I've been in this job, it's the unexpected that always happens."

Negotiations over the price of the drug and Siga's profit margin were contentious. In an internal memo in March, Dr. Richard J. Hatchett, chief medical officer for HHS' biodefense preparedness unit, said Siga's projected profit at that point was 180%, which he called "outrageous."

In an email earlier the same day, a department colleague told Hatchett that no government contracting officer "would sign a 3 digit profit percentage."

In April, after Siga's chief executive, Dr. Eric A. Rose, complained in writing about the department's "approach to profit," Lurie assured him that the "most senior procurement official" would be taking over the negotiations.

"I trust this will be satisfactory to you," Lurie wrote Rose in a letter.

In an interview, Lurie said the contract was awarded strictly on merit. She said she had discussed buying a smallpox antiviral for the nation's emergency stockpile with White House officials and with HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, but that the conversations focused on policy, not the manufacturer.

"We discussed the need for the product, and a need for a product to be stockpiled," Lurie said. "And we discussed an impending procurement."

Lurie denied that she had spoken with or written to Rose regarding the contract, saying such contact would have been inappropriate.

But in a subsequent statement, an HHS spokeswoman acknowledged Lurie's letter to Rose, saying it "reflects the critical importance of the potential procurement to national security."

Representatives of Siga, speaking on the condition they not be identified, said the new drug has been effective in animal testing and that the company is being paid a price commensurate with its value

Neither the HHS spokeswoman nor the Siga representatives would disclose the agreed-upon profit margin or the per-treatment price. Siga has cited terms of the contract in its public financial statements — but without those financial details.


May read rest of article here.....but suffice to say.....where's the "outrage"?  Where's the MSM microscope?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 05:24:40 PM by sirs »
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 04:26:27 PM »
It's the economy stupid......not who runs or doesn't run Uzbekistan

According to a CBS News poll released Friday, around 60 percent of voters – the highest on record – disapprove of President Obama’s handling of the economy. While his overall job approval rating is significantly higher at 43 percent, only one President since World War II – Richard Nixon – was able to win a second term with approval ratings below 50% one year before Election Day.

It’s worth noting, though, that only 39% of Independents, according to the survey, are pleased with his job performance. Indeed, in a general election that will likely come down to the wire, these numbers suggest President Obama may lose a key voting bloc next November that helped catapult him to victory in 2008.

Those bleak numbers come just one day before eight Republican candidates hit the stage in Spartanburg, South Carolina, for the CBS News/National Journal debate on foreign policy at Wofford College.

On foreign policy, Mr. Obama's ratings are higher. About 45 percent of respondents approve of the job he is doing, compared to 41 percent who disapprove of his foreign policy performance.

On the specific subject of combating terrorism, about 63 percent approve of Mr. Obama's performance while 28 percent disapprove.

Don't expect this to be repeated in the MSM either.  But boy, if this were a Republican Administration

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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 04:47:37 PM »
I appreciate your disclaimer but i don't understand how you can say there is no coverage or is under the radarwhen a quick Google shows that the story has been reported in the LA Times and on Fox News, and numerous blogs, after breaking this morning.

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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 05:11:10 PM »
"...should not be confused with articles that happen to be reported, merely buried or barely mentioned with any scrutiny or repetition when its about the left, vs when its about the right"

Which would include an article by the LA Times
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 05:15:44 PM »
Again, not to nitpick, but am I to accept your position without examining the facts?
The story is linked by Drudge, which means it will go viral in the next 24, at least in the blogosphere.



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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 05:19:39 PM »
And what will validate my position, is the lack of such scrutiny and repetition......thus the 1st part of the dislcaimer.....that there is a predominance of reporting by the MSM favoring 1 ideology and/or political party over the other.  It's manifested most offten by what's not reported vs what is

And my comments are specific to the MSM, not the "Blogosphere", which indeed can hold & repeat very diverse viewpoints
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 05:25:23 PM »
I'm not sure how your prove a negative, wheras it is easy to show exceptions to your rule, simple as posting a link.

Perhaps we just leave your position as an opinion, and not a fact.


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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 05:30:09 PM »
It's always been an opinion....based on the mountain of evidence that supports it.  It's not so much reporting of a negative as simply not being reported, as in no repetition or scrutiny, compared to if these were stories regarding a Republican administration
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 05:38:09 PM »
Your opinion doesn't seem to match up with the facts on numerous occasions.

Just an observation.

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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 05:39:41 PM »
Your opinionated observation would be wrong, but that's ok, as that's just my opinion
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 05:56:47 PM »
Your opinionated observation would be wrong, but that's ok, as that's just my opinion

Should all observations be labeled opinionated? I observe that today in my area of the state the sky is blue, is that opinionated or just an observation backed by fact.

What do you mean by opinionated?

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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2011, 06:27:12 PM »
Certain opinions can be backed up by evidence and/or fact.  Sky is blue would fit that.  Your dog is ugly is an opinion based almost exclusively in one's perception of what is ugly, and what isn't.  Opinion can also be shaded by a predisposed-bias, despite evidence and/or facts to the contrary....such as an observation that my opinion supposedly doesn't match up with facts on "numerous occasions".

But this line of debate is rather repetative and probably very boring to the other patrons.  Let's move on, shall we
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 06:43:09 PM »
Well these are the facts that were included in my observation.

I knew about the vaccine before you posted it. And when you posted it it was a cut and paste from a MSM outlet. A quick Google showed that Fox was also echoing the story and then a check of Drudge showed he has also linked to the story.

This, a story that broke today.

I am not sure what your expectations are for fair and balanced reporting but in this case the story is out there.

And i'm more than glad to move-on, if that makes the defense of your position easier. Until the next time my observations do not match up with your opinion.

Because in the end that is what this place is all about, the examination of opinions and observations shared on this board with personal observations as to their verity.


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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 07:14:48 PM »
Yea and........?

My expectation is that outside of Fox, don't expect any scrutiny or repetition, that was largely rabid during the Bush administration, and the no bid contracts that went to supposed Cheney & Bush connections.  Not to mention the endless reporting on his polling #'s as Iraq and the supposed "worst economy since the depression" dragged on.

Nothing more to defend.  The lack of any repetative follow-up, by the MSM folk, is all the back-up I need

Cudos to having read the story before I posted it.  Drudge does a nice job at picking up things that the MSM pretty much lets die out, when its about one of their folk
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Re: Under the MSM radar
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 07:23:06 PM »
The LA times is not Fox and they broke the story.l Fox echoed it. Drudge picked it up from there. I read about it on a blog before you posted it. And the blog got it from the LA Times , which is not Fox.