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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Michael Tee on October 24, 2011, 03:01:51 PM

Title: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Michael Tee on October 24, 2011, 03:01:51 PM
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/10/24/ntc-fighters-commit-mass-execution-of-53-gadhafi-supporters/ (http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/10/24/ntc-fighters-commit-mass-execution-of-53-gadhafi-supporters/)

yes, gee, too bad, guess it has to be that way to pave the way for real freedom and democracy

I know what!!!  Let's have an INVESTIGATION.   We can investigate this thing till the cows come home and nobody's even gonna remember any of this shit in about a couple of days.  Certainly not the MSM.

Here you have a country (USA. France, Italy, doesn't really matter, call it an ALLIANCE - - call it NATO - - in which presumably the USA retains some minor influence) an ALLIANCE, which invades Libya, overthrows the Libyan government, installs a band of "rag-tag guerrilla fighters" who could have accomplished absolutely zero without NATO support - - and then takes no responsibility whatsoever for the massacres and atrocities that follow. 

It's a bizarre world where your President and his Sec of State take the credit for the overthrow and the murder and deny any responsibility for the end result.

Why not just totally abandon the ludicrous pretence that the USA is still "a nation of laws?"  It's a nation of fucking OUTlaws.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Kramer on October 24, 2011, 03:09:23 PM
This is the group your man, Obama, has backed up with US Taxpayer money. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 24, 2011, 03:20:43 PM
Michael I have been very concerned from day one of Obama's War in Libya about what the end result would be.

I still don't understand why we are/were there?

At least in Afghanistan the Taliban had willingly given shelter to those that pulled off the Sept 11 attack on the United States. And in Iraq we had been at war with Saddam, Saddam had attempted to assassinate a former US President, and several countries intel and President Clinton spoke of Saddam's "weapons of mass destruction"......none of which were present for Obama to go to war in Libya.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: sirs on October 24, 2011, 03:26:32 PM
Much less do it without any Congressional authority or even input

Should Tee not be calling Obama a war criminal, and in need of being impeached.  I mean, if he's going to be consistent, that is
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Kramer on October 24, 2011, 03:28:54 PM
Much less do it without any Congressional authority or even input

Should Tee not be calling Obama a war criminal, and in need of being impeached.  I mean, if he's going to be consistent, that is

Don't hold thy breath. Don't forget about his dog XO either.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: BSB on October 24, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
>>53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred ...........<<

Gee, what a surprise.


BSB
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Kramer on October 24, 2011, 03:47:14 PM
>>53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred ...........<<

Gee, what a surprise.


BSB

Did you serve under Lt Calley?
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 24, 2011, 04:00:11 PM
As I see it, had NATO done nothing, Qaddaffi would have killed far more people than have been killed in the struggle to unseat him. There were much worse atrocities and disasters than this in the US Civil War. Was Nathaniel Bedford Forrest ever convicted of the massacre of the Black soldiers who surrendered to him  at Fort Pillow?

 The fact is that people get killed in wars.

Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 24, 2011, 05:45:36 PM
A BIT STRANGE....

(http://img.breitbart.com/images/2011/10/22/ap-p/8ba01c0e-2ef5-4f31-81c4-c20370971f00.jpg)

A man reacts while viewing the bodies of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi, background, his ex-defense minister Abu Bakr Younis and his son, Muatassim Gadhafi, foreground, in a commercial freezer at a shopping center in Misrata, Libya, Saturday, Oct. 22, 2011. Libya's new leaders will declare liberation on Sunday, officials said, a move that will start the clock for elections after months of bloodshed that culminated in the death of longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 24, 2011, 05:54:33 PM
I still don't understand why we are/were there?
Michael...here is one possible reason...funny the two guys (Saddam and Gadhafi) that
pursued this currency change to be backed by GOLD were invaded and killed....coincidence?
maybe

Gaddafi gold-for-oil, dollar-doom plans behind Libya 'mission'? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc#)
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: BSB on October 24, 2011, 06:07:04 PM
Get your program here! You can't tell the players without a program!


BSB
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 24, 2011, 07:33:12 PM
Ghaddafi Capture in HD

LiveLeak.com - New HD video of Gaddafi's capture (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cc_1319401073)
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: BT on October 24, 2011, 07:37:46 PM
Wonder if the video captures this:

Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20124758-503543/globalpost-qaddafi-apparently-sodomized-after-capture/)
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Michael Tee on October 24, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
Looks like these morons have a vocabulary that's limited to two words, "Allahu Akhbar!"  However, I'm reasonably certain that those aren't the morons that NATO has picked to run the country.  They'll get their 15 minutes of fame before the real rulers take over and start to divvy up the oil concessions, especially the ones that the 30,000 evacuated Chinese oil workers were servicing.

Personally, I give the Chinese high marks for their handling of the situation.  Since they weren't able to do a God-damn thing about it, they never even tried.  They just concentrated on getting their men out, which they did very successfully with no casualties.   Don't know how much equipment, if any, they were able to salvage.  But in the meantime, and for avoidance of this kind of nonsense in the future, they've already gutted one vintage Russian carrier, rebuilt her to state-of-the-art and when she finishes her shakedown cruise, they are going to build another three from scratch.  Next time "the West" or NATO makes another grab for oil fields that China has a working interest in, it probably won't be such a cake-walk.  Slow and methodical, China won't be rushed.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Kramer on October 24, 2011, 08:05:32 PM
Wonder if the video captures this:

Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20124758-503543/globalpost-qaddafi-apparently-sodomized-after-capture/)

Maybe a sister city program can be established between Tripoli and San Francisco. They can make the date of Qaddafi's death their annual Gay Day Parade.
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: BSB on October 25, 2011, 02:31:32 AM
China is an ever growing threat. The depression was put to rest by WWII and its aftermath.

I can hear the dogs barking.   


BSB 
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Michael Tee on October 25, 2011, 11:03:05 AM
<<China is an ever growing threat. >>

It's only a threat to fascism and imperialism and the US bid to dominate the world.  Not such a bad threat.

<<The depression was put to rest by WWII and its aftermath. >>

Yep, and at a cost of only about 65 million lives lost.

<<I can hear the dogs barking. >>

Dogs always bark.  I can hear America's torture victims screaming. 
Title: Re: 53 Ghaddafi fighters found massacred in Sirte hotel
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 25, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
It seems to me that all China has done is to work to assure that China has the resources it needs for China to feed itself and to prosper. They have not attacked Taiwan, and they surely could have been more harsh with Macao and Hong Kong had they been strict ideologues.