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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on July 19, 2010, 10:13:16 PM
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bigotry yes, racism no
because she`s black it cannot be racism.
but note she did not refuse to help and her speech was cut off on the matter about that race is not an issue.
but still her choice of words would never fly if any other race(not jusdt white) were to talk like that
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bigotry yes, racism no
because she`s black it cannot be racism.
but note she did not refuse to help and her speech was cut off on the matter about that race is not an issue.
but still her choice of words would never fly if any other race(not jusdt white) were to talk like that
yeah you are right, she isn't a racist, she just hates white people, no big deal. I wonder if she hates Asians too.
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First off, there are NO "tea party leaders" in this clip. So Kramer simply mislabeled this.
Second, the woman said that it was not the fact that the farmer was White that bothered her so much as his trying to show that he was superior to her. This is not racism: she DID refer him to someone who was supposedly qualified to help. And we do not know if the guy lost the farm or not.
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First off, there are NO "tea party leaders" in this clip. So Kramer simply mislabeled this.
Second, the woman said that it was not the fact that the farmer was White that bothered her so much as his trying to show that he was superior to her. This is not racism: she DID refer him to someone who was supposedly qualified to help. And we do not know if the guy lost the farm or not.
You missed my subtle point that had this vedio been associated with the Tea Party movement that rant would be labeled racist. Just remove black women, insert white women, and change the story around to a black farmer and see Jess, Al, Obama and the NAACP have shit fits and watch the shit hit the fan as the willing press pile on.
America has awakened to the race-baiting, racist accusations, of the left and the smears, lies & distortions that go along with the MO.
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First off, there are NO "tea party leaders" in this clip. So Kramer simply mislabeled this.
Second, the woman said that it was not the fact that the farmer was White that bothered her so much as his trying to show that he was superior to her. This is not racism: she DID refer him to someone who was supposedly qualified to help.
A) It's about her problem in perceiving what this WHITE man was supposedly doing. She made it clear it was about his race, by referring to it, several times. It's indeed racist
B) She, as an official, is SUPPOSED to be impartial, is SUPPOSED to not allow race to cloud her judgement. SHE herself, had the ability to assist him, and chose not to.....again, largely because of his race. Doesn't matter who she may or may not have "referred" him to. This is about her actions
C) Kramer frequently uses a reverse of titles, to get folks to think about what's really happening. Everyone on the left wants to claim that the Tea Party is a bunch of racist hicks, minus any evidence of this of course, yet here, we have clear evidence of a racist rant, but since its by a black person....well, we have to rationalize why it's not. Thanks for your examples of trying to do so
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Kramer is a doofus. I realize what he intended to do. It was just a dumb way to do it. And I do not take you seriously, sirs. Kramer I can laugh at, but the only appropriate emotion for you is pity for your lack of reasoning skills and wit.
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Kramer is a doofus. I realize what he intended to do. It was just a dumb way to do it. And I do not take you seriously, sirs. Kramer I can laugh at, but the only appropriate emotion for you is pity for your lack of reasoning skills and wit.
Where did you get the pass for personal attacks, I want one too?
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Where did you get the pass for personal attacks, I want one too?
There are no passes for personal attacks. Moderation is discretionary, though ideally members should self moderate.
But just for the sake of discussion, why do you think i called you on the personal attacks upon Brass but rarely get involved in the insult fests between you and XO?
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Kramer is a doofus. I realize what he intended to do.
If you did, why claim he misspoke the title??
It was just a dumb way to do it.
Says you. You not only misread it, now you're trying to minimize the damage. I noticed how you couldn't deal with the pit you dug yourself in, with the bogus "sirs thinks Tee is advocating fasicism" tact. Talk about dumb ::)
And I do not take you seriously, sirs. Kramer I can laugh at, but the only appropriate emotion for you is pity for your lack of reasoning skills and wit.
Said the pot
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Where did you get the pass for personal attacks, I want one too?
There are no passes for personal attacks. Moderation is discretionary, though ideally members should self moderate.
But just for the sake of discussion, why do you think i called you on the personal attacks upon Brass but rarely get involved in the insult fests between you and XO?
I have a long memory for personal attacks against me. Nothing I wrote was any worse than he's said to me. Time does not mysteriously remove or erase attacks upon me. As a matter of fact my so-called attacks were merely harsh truthisms. If he had received a proper upbringing he would have naturally learned that SOCIALISM is not normal, is not healthy, and is not a way of life to achieve true success or self worth. People are more or less animals and socialism goes against the grain of human nature. You don't make a man toil in the field all day long and then take 1/2 his hard-earned grain and give it to some lazy schmuck that spent all summer hanging out at the beach not working. Our society is filled with lazy, no good, complaining, ungrateful people, demanding entitlements. I have no expectations that people owe me a free ride or anything. I detest losers that expect me to pay their way. I despise politicians for taking my hard earned money away and giving it to their voters so they can stay in office.
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You didn't answer my question.
But just so you know, this forum does not exist for its members to engage in grudge matches.
If you want a forum like that, build your own.
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You didn't answer my question.
But just so you know, this forum does not exist for its members to engage in grudge matches.
If you want a forum like that, build your own.
to answer your question, no, I don't know why.