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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-imuspol13apr13,0,2734444.story?coll=la-home-headlines
THE IMUS SCANDAL: POLITICAL IMPACT

Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
His show helped many of them reach a national audience of white males -- a crucial voting bloc.
By Peter Wallsten
Times Staff Writer

April 13, 2007

WASHINGTON — They came by the hundreds that hot August day in tiny Johnson City, Tenn., gathering on an asphalt parking lot to meet Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. It was not just that he might become the state's first black senator. More than that, even in Republican eastern Tennessee, the Democratic congressman was a celebrity — a regular guest on Don Imus' radio show.

And today, with Imus' career in tatters, the fate of the controversial shock jock is stirring quiet but heartfelt concern in an unlikely quarter: among Democratic politicians.

That's because, over the years, Democrats such as Ford came to count on Imus for the kind of sympathetic treatment that Republicans got from Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity.

Equally important, Imus gave Democrats a pipeline to a crucial voting bloc that was perennially hard for them to reach: politically independent white men.

With Imus' show canceled indefinitely because of his remarks about the Rutgers University women's basketball team, some Democratic strategists are worried about how to fill the void. For a national radio audience of white men, Democrats see few if any alternatives.

"This is a real bind for Democrats," said Dan Gerstein, an advisor to one of Imus' favorite regulars, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.). "Talk radio has become primarily the province of the right, and the blogosphere is largely the province of the left. If Imus loses his microphone, there aren't many other venues like it around."

Jim Farrell, a former aide to 2000 presidential candidate and Imus regular Bill Bradley, said the firing "creates a vacuum."

This week, when Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) was asked by CNN why he picked Imus' show to announce his presidential candidacy, Dodd explained: "He's got a huge audience; he gives you enough time to talk, not a 30-second sound bite, a chance to explain your views; … and a chance to reach the audience who doesn't always watch the Sunday morning talk shows."

Though Imus was a regular destination for the likes of Dodd, Ford, Lieberman, 2004 Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John F. Kerry and others — as well as such GOP figures as Sen. John McCain of Arizona — his influence has long been debated.

Talkers Magazine ranks him far below Limbaugh and liberal Ed Schultz in terms of power. His audience is dwarfed by many others, and he is not heard in some major markets [though his show was simulcast on cable TV]. One senior Democratic strategist, requesting anonymity to avoid insulting some of his party's power players, said the show was no more than a "locker room for middle-age politicians."

Not all high-level Democrats were drawn to the self-styled "I-Man." Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a party presidential front-runner and a frequent target of Imus' jokes, said she never had the desire to appear.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the other current front-runner, appeared once — but he was the first presidential candidate to call this week for Imus' ouster.

Ford strategists believe his relationship with Imus was central to earning credibility in the eyes of white voters in conservative regions of Tennessee. "That's how I got to know Harold, seeing him on Imus," said Ben Scharfstein, owner of the One Stop convenience store in Johnson City, who turned over his parking lot that August day for the campaign event.

But even Scharfstein said he had now had it with Imus. "I'm going to have to turn Don off now," he said. "His ego has gotten ahead of himself, and that's not worth watching."

And Ford was hardly leaping to the defense of his radio ally despite repeated on-air pleas from Imus to appear in his defense. Ford on Thursday called Imus' statements "reprehensible," though he added that Imus was a friend and a "decent man."

peter.wallsten@latimes.com

Staff writer Robin Abcarian contributed to this report.


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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2007, 11:06:43 AM »
<<And Ford was hardly leaping to the defense of his radio ally despite repeated on-air pleas from Imus to appear in his defense. Ford on Thursday called Imus' statements "reprehensible," though he added that Imus was a friend and a "decent man.">>

That's the hell of it.  A guy can say racist, sexist things and even the target of the racism can still say, "He's a friend and a decent man."  People are very complex.  Nobody can or should judge Imus.  (I did and I shouldn't have.)  That's why the debate really was not about Don Imus personally.  It was always about the level of tolerance that can be shown for racism and sexism in the public sphere.

Too bad about Democratic politicians losing a key platform.  Too bad about Ford.  Guess one hand only washes the other as long as the other stays out of the shit.

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2007, 12:28:07 PM »
There are plenty of soapboxes in the world. We dont need a shitty one.

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2007, 01:26:23 PM »
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There are plenty of soapboxes in the world. We dont need a shitty one.

That is a very thought provoking post. Should that apply to 3DHS as well?

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2007, 04:09:49 PM »
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There are plenty of soapboxes in the world. We dont need a shitty one.

That is a very thought provoking post. Should that apply to 3DHS as well?


If the shoe fits.

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2007, 04:14:50 PM »
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If the shoe fits.

Shitty is subjective. I'm sure my posts could probably stand improvement. How about yours?

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2007, 05:40:39 PM »
"Shitty is subjective. I'm sure my posts could probably stand improvement. How about yours?"

touche...

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2007, 01:34:42 AM »
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If the shoe fits.

Shitty is subjective. I'm sure my posts could probably stand improvement. How about yours?


My posts are succinct, and say what I mean them to say. Yours merely suck.

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2007, 01:36:12 AM »
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My posts are succinct, and say what I mean them to say. Yours merely suck.

lol .

let's add delusional to your character defects.


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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2007, 01:38:29 AM »
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My posts are succinct, and say what I mean them to say. Yours merely suck.

lol .

let's add delusional to your character defects.


Let us add gross arrogance to yours-- OOps too late.

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Re: Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with firing of Don Imus
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2007, 01:47:43 AM »
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Let us add gross arrogance to yours-- OOps too late.

You make my case.