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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 05:41:27 PM »
Just in case anyone missed it - highly recommended!

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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2007, 07:16:57 PM »
Gosh! Where do you find these things? At Area 51?
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2007, 10:03:24 PM »
Most, if not all, of what is presented in this film as fact, is, indeed fact.

They can already read the money in your pocket. The police have been doing this in Valdosta, GA for at least 7 years now along I-75, presumably to catch drug dealers.

The new National ID will be your Driver's License, with a chip embedded in it.

The Federal Reserve, which is not owned by the US government,  does create money and does charge interest to the government when it loans the govt the money it has created.

The Constitution does not allow for a private bank such as the Federal Reserve, to create money.

We are being spied on and monitored more with each passing day by the US Govt.

Neither the media nor either party has addressed this issue.
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2007, 10:34:00 PM »
They can already read the money in your pocket. The police have been doing this in Valdosta, GA for at least 7 years now along I-75, presumably to catch drug dealers.

Got a source for that? I know of no technology that converts polyester into an emitter (or even a reflector) of electromagnetism.

The Constitution does not allow for a private bank such as the Federal Reserve, to create money.

The Constitution does not forbid it, either. It leaves it up to Congress to decide how to handle it.

We are being spied on and monitored more with each passing day by the US Govt.

And just about everyone else, as well.
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2007, 10:00:29 AM »
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The Federal Reserve, which is not owned by the US government,  does create money and does charge interest to the government when it loans the govt the money it has created.

This seriously needs to be addressed. I haven't watched the film in question, but the Federal Reserve often takes the brunt of a lot of conspiracy theories or general disdain by people who don't really understand how it works. I think that its complexity is the cause for the attacks on it by both those on the right and the left.

The Federal Reserve does create money, but not in the way many people think of it. They operate as a central bank (they are basically the Central Bank of the United States) except that in true American form, they are more like a federation of banks operated by a publicly appointed board.

The Federal Reserve does loan money to the Government at a reduced interest rate, but they also return the interest paid on government securities to the Federal Government, which ends up with no net payment by the Federal Government.

They also set the amount banks must keep in reserve as well as a number of other regulations - the primary one we are most familiar with is the interest that banks charge one another in return for a loan of reserves (i.e. the Fed setting the interest rate target).
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2007, 12:18:10 PM »
Got a source for that? I know of no technology that converts polyester into an emitter (or even a reflector) of electromagnetism.

I did not say it was polyester. This would be YOUR theory.

The bills in question would be $100 and maybe $50 bills.

I resent being spied on by governments or anyone else, and insist that I have a right to my privacy.

You should see the film, rather than carp about it in ignorance.
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2007, 12:22:42 PM »
The bills in question would be $100 and maybe $50 bills.

So? Got a source?
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2007, 03:28:53 PM »
Just curious - why was this topic made sticky?
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Re: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2007, 11:35:49 PM »
For my convenience.

It has been a heck of a week with business and city council, i am acting mayor in the midst of miillage rate considerations. I saw the movie was an hour plus, had been bumped once and i wanted to be able to find it quickly when i had time to view it.