When does Palin get her apologies?

[BT]

BT would you feel comfortable with a death panel concerning your family
whose makeup was people that were employees of your insurance company?

Depends what their function was. What does this "death panel" do?

[Christians4LessGvt]

Depends what their function was. What does this "death panel" do?

That's the problem BT....who knows?...and who knows where this leads?
Dr. Donald Berwick administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
Services is the man President Obama bypassed Congress and appointed.
Berwick is a longtime advocate for rationing medical procedures for the elderly.
Berwick stated "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care,
the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open". BT I don't trust
a govt monopoly that could take us towards the path toward government
encouraged euthanasia.

[BT]

That's the problem BT....who knows?...and who knows where this leads?

Isn't that what congressional oversight is about?

Based on the information posted by Sirs about the Obama admin removing the end of life counseling language from this years Medicare Rules, what is objectionable?

End-of-life counseling unexpectedly surfaced again late last year in a Medicare regulation that spelled out what would be covered in a new annual checkup, or wellness visit, authorized by the health care law. Issued without fanfare, the regulation said such voluntary doctor-patient discussions could be part of the annual visit.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the administration still supports end-of-life planning, but is pulling the language from the regulation because there wasn't enough chance for all sides to comment on the change. "We did not think that the process (gave) the public an adequate space in a public comment period to debate these kinds of things," Gibbs told reporters.

Discussions about how to face the end of life are already an accepted part of care for people with a terminal illness, and the administration's reversal is unlikely to have much impact on that. Longstanding federal rules require hospital patients to be informed of their right to spell out in a living will or similar document their wishes about being kept alive by machinery if there's no hope for a cure.

I just don't see where a living will leads to suicide parlors.


 

[Christians4LessGvt]

Here's more great news coming from ObamaCare!

Obamacare stops construction at
45 physician owned hospitals nationwide

January 04, 2011

By Rick Moran

What a superlative idea!

Let's throw thousands of construction workers out of work and make it harder
to access quality medical care at the same time.

Man, those Democrats are 6 times brilliant, eh? The Weekly Standard:

Under the headline, "Construction Stops at Physician Hospitals," Politico reports today that "Physician Hospitals of America says that construction had to stop at 45 hospitals nationwide or they would not be able to bill Medicare for treatments." Stopping construction at doctor-owned hospitals might not seem like the best way to boost the economy or to promote greater access and choice in health care, but that exactly what Obamacare is doing. 

Kenneth Artz of the Heartland Institute explains, "Section 6001 of the health care law effectively bans new physician-owned hospitals (POHs) from starting up, and it keeps existing ones from expanding." Politico adds, "Friday [New Year's Eve] marked the last day physician-owned hospitals could get Medicare certification covering their new or expanded hospitals, one of the latest provisions of the reform law to go into effect."

This little-noticed but particularly egregious aspect of Obamacare is, by all accounts, a concession to the powerful American Hospital Association (AHA), a supporter of Obamacare, which prefers to have its member hospitals operate without competition from hospitals owned by doctors.

Dr. Michael Russell, president of Physician Hospitals of America, which has filed suit to try to stop this selective building-ban from going into effect, says, "There are so many regulations [in Obamacare] and they are so onerous and intrusive that we believe that the section [Section 6001] was deliberately designed so no physician owned hospital could successfully comply." 

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/obamacare_stops_construction_a.html

[Christians4LessGvt]

Isn't that what congressional oversight is about?

Is dat the same oversight we had over Fannie & Freddie?

[sirs]

D'OH         

[BT]

Isn't that what congressional oversight is about?

Is dat the same oversight we had over Fannie & Freddie?

Yeah. Fannie and Freddie didn't blow up in a day. Seems the GOP had some say in the matter.

Read between the lines on your physicians hospital story. The govt is for sale to the party in power. You can either end the corruption or you can make sure your side gets the spoils. It's one or the other.

[sirs]

And one of the greatest, if not the best way, to end any potential of corruption, is to get them out of a business they have no business in, in the 1st place

So sayeth, the constitution, including reading between the amendments

[BT]

And one of the greatest, if not the best way, to end any potential of corruption, is to get them out of a business they have no business in, in the 1st place

So sayeth, the constitution, including reading between the amendments

Yeah that will do it. 

[sirs]

It will.  Hard to corrupt something you're not privvy to

[BT]

It will.  Hard to corrupt something you're not privvy to

It has certainly worked out like that, thus far. So what has changed?

[sirs]

That's just it, it hasn't.  Instead, the Federal Government continues to privvy itself into more and more of this country's fabric, that it has no business in.  All we can do is to elect representatives that understand that concept, support them, and if they go way of the liberal/socialist dark side, elect someone else who will

[BT]

That's just it, it hasn't.  Instead, the Federal Government continues to privvy itself into more and more of this country's fabric, that it has no business in.  All we can do is to elect representatives that understand that concept, support them, and if they go way of the liberal/socialist dark side, elect someone else who will

Rinse Repeat

[sirs]

Your pessimistic position is duly noted

[BT]

Your pessimistic position is duly noted

And your optimistic denial of the reality of the situation is also duly noted.

What was your position on campaign finance reform again?