High Stakes in Syria makes for crowded waters!

[Christians4LessGvt]

You don't make sense.

Not to a hypocrite that sits today on "stolen" lands
but then condemns Israel.

I dislike both Ahmedinejad and Netanyahu.

But you are inline with Ahmedinejad on Israel one of the sub-topics of this thread.
You are on the fringe of American thought on Israel and disagree with most elected
democrats and President Obama....whom you both claim are taking cash payments
to support Israel.

There is no reason why any American Gentile would benefit from aid to Israel any more than aid to Armenia or some other country that thinks we Americans somehow owe it money and aid.

Armenia is not a beach-head against the Islamo-Nazis who threaten world peace
and the world economy.

As far as the history.....

There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" nation.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" state.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" kingdom.
There were never in the history of the world "Palestinian" kings.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" capital.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" essence.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" heritage.
There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" culture.

There was an Israeli nation in the land of Israel.
There was an Israeli kingdom in the land of Israel.
There were Israeli kings in the Israeli kingdom of Israel.
There was an Israeli capital in the kingdom of Israel.
There was and there is an Israeli essence.
There was and there is an Israeli heritage.
There was and there is an Israeli culture.

You are on the wrong side of history!

[Christians4LessGvt]

NATO-Gulf military officers in Turkey
prepare for intervention in Syria

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

November 28, 2011, 7:56 PM (GMT+02:00)


Coffin of Syrian elite pilot

A group of military officers from NATO and Persian Gulf nations have quietly established a mixed operational command at Iskenderun in the Turkish Hatay province on the border of North Syria, debkafile's military sources report. Hailing from the United States, France, Canada, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, with Turkish officers providing liaison, they do not represent NATO but are self-designated "monitors." Their mission is to set up "humanitarian corridors" inside Syria to serve the victims of Bashar Assad's crackdown. Commanded by ground, naval, air force and engineering officers, the task force aims to move into most of northern Syria.

Laying the groundwork for the legitimacy of the combined NATO-Arab intervention in Syria, the UN Independent International Commission set up to assess the situation in Syria published a horrendous report Monday, Nov. 28 on the Assad regime's brutalities. It documented "gross violations of human rights" and "patterns of summary execution, arbitrary arrest, enforced disappearance, torture including sexual violence, as well as violations of children's rights."
Syrian foreign minister Walid al-Moallem fought back by showing a press conference Monday photos of dismembered bodies of Syrian soldiers as proof of the atrocities he claimed were perpetrated by the anti-Assad opposition.  He also complained that "the Arab League and others refuse to believe that there is a foreign conspiracy targeting Syria."

debkafile military sources report exclusively that the Western-Arab intervention in the Syrian crisis is in an advanced state of operational planning. It entails a buffer zone in northern Syria encompassing beleaguered towns, primarily Idlib, Rastan and Homs - but also Aleppo, Syria's largest city (2.5 million mostly Sunni and Kurdish inhabitants).

The protest movement never caught on in Aleppo, home to the moneyed classes who run the country's financial and trading sectors, and it was confined to the highway network feeding the city. Therefore, for the Assad regime, bringing Aleppo into the "humanitarian corridor" system under foreign military control will round of the damage caused by the economic sanctions approved this week by the Arab League. Losing Aleppo will fatally hammer the economy into the ground and rob the Syrian ruler of funding for sustaining his military crackdown to wipe out the unrest in the areas remaining under his control.

Aware of this threat, Foreign Minister al-Moallem accused the Arab League of declaring economic war on Syria.

[BSB]

Stop being a fool CU4. We will support Israel for as long as it serves our purpose and not a day longer. Israel is not a special case. The only nation that holds that status for us is England.


BSB 

[sirs]

IIRC, didn't someone refer to carriers as not really a force to be reckoned with.  Especially nuclear powered carriers??  So, what's the fuss all about then?       

[Christians4LessGvt]

Stop being a fool CU4. We will support Israel for as long as it serves our purpose and not a day longer. Israel is not a special case. The only nation that holds that status for us is England. BSB

Oh baloney......you are stating the obvious in every case in every international relationship.
So if it did not serve our purpose we would still support England?
Yeah right.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Iran: We'll fire 150,000 missiles at Israel if attacked
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html

yeah sure Iran....you do that and you commit suicide

so ok...fire 150,000 missiles at Israel and you will be nuked
and Tehran will look like Hiroshima ten times worse.

[Xavier_Onassis]

England is certainly a more important ally of the US than Israel. So are Canada, Mexico and France. And probably Italy, Germany Ireland and Spain as well. And then there's Japan and South Korea, and maybe Australia.

Israel is rather like the neighborhood bum that hits us up for change when we come out of the supermarket.

[BSB]

If England was in a bind, needed our aide, and we were getting nothing out of it, would we still do it? You bet. What did England get out of backing us in Iraq? Nothing.

I remember reading your baloney CU4 during the invasion of Iraq. You knew nothing then and you know nothing now. Ya dumb Texan.

BSB

[Christians4LessGvt]

England is certainly a more important ally of the US than Israel. So are Canada, Mexico and France. And probably Italy, Germany Ireland and Spain as well. And then there's Japan and South Korea, and maybe Australia.

Non of those countries are our ally in the most dangerous part of the world....
Yeah sure Mexico is as important in the geo-political chess game as Israel....
Laughable at best!

[Xavier_Onassis]

Trade with Mexico is far more important to the US than puny Israel. It is even more important to Texas than the rest of the US.
Israel has NEVER taken part in any US war. Mostly. Israel has been at the root of the current problem in the Middle East.

Israel is the problem, not the solution.

[Christians4LessGvt]

If England was in a bind, needed our aide, and we were getting nothing out of it,
would we still do it? You bet. What did England get out of backing us in Iraq? Nothing.

England's interests are basically our interests....thats why they were in Iraq.
England is an ally with a set of circumstances and so is Isreal.

I remember reading your baloney CU4 during the invasion of Iraq. You knew nothing then
and you know nothing now.

I am thrilled Saddam is gone....I know you wish the murderer was still in charge
to use WMD's against his own people again and again. The Arab Spring does
not happen without President Bush getting rid of a Middle Eastern tyrant.

Ya dumb Texan. BSB

Perfect example....
You personally insult people...then if somebody fires back...you run crying to BT
"oh they are talking about me...me personally....boooooo whoooo...how dare they!"
I bet you got your ass kicked a lot when you weren't an old man.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Trade with Mexico is far more important to the US than puny Israel.

Earth to XO....each friend and ally of the US is not exactly the same
It's called reality....each has an interest for the US and serves a purpose
Because Mexico ships more t-shirts or bricks to the US
doesn't make Israel a less important strategic ally

Israel has NEVER taken part in any US war.

Earth to XO....
read the above again....
Each friend/ally serves a different strategic purpose
Even the example you provide Mexico...does not help the US much militarily
Israel does not need to help the US militarily...that would not serve either's interests
Although I do predict one day Israeli & US soldiers will share foxholes fighting the IslamoMenace
But Israel has their hands full being surround by IslamoNazis & being the beachhead against
Islamo-Fascism in an extremely dangerous and economic vital part of the world.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The English people got little out of backing the US, but the English and the US together control oil, and Iraq's oil is now released from the hands of Saddam, and back on the market where it can be used to "stabilize" prices, by which I mean maximize profits.

What does Israel offer the US?  To the American people, a small yet steady drain on their resources. To American politicians, lots of Jewish money and enough single-issue Jewish voters to throw the election in several states. AIPAC is very clever, but it is the enemy of peace in the Middle East (unity of a democratically elected people there would be against Israel's interests in snatching still more land) and the American people are easily duped by AIPAC's buying off of US media, churches, politicians and banks.

Eventually, Israel will fail, because of the corruption from within that Ami pointed out. Nothing thr US can do about draft-dodging, resource-consuming, fast breeding rabbinical students, who produce nothing, live off the State and will not fight. Nothing the US can do about the Palestinian birth rate, either.

In the long run, Israel is doomed by its own hand.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Although I do predict one day Israeli & US soldiers will share foxholes fighting the IslamoMenace
But Israel has their hands full being surround by IslamoNazis & being the beachhead against
Islamo-Fascism in an extremely dangerous and economic vital part of the world.

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Foxholes? Wars are not fought in foxholes anymore. Foxholes are passé.

"Islamo-Fascism" is an interesting creation, sort of an adult equivalent of Skeletor. But really, the US is not going to fight a war against Islam, that is just stupid. And no one is likely to fight in foxholes. Not with watching every square foot of land and drones about.

Maybe the Israelis are behind the US killing all those Pakistanis. That certainly was a huge mistake. We know that Israel loves manipulating the US into doing things that favor Israel. They have shown no compunction about killing American sailors, like those on the Liberty.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Foxholes? Wars are not fought in foxholes anymore. Foxholes are past

Dumbass Waste Of Time Literalist Alert!

Side By Side In War....now can you understand?