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"Free Stuff"
« on: September 25, 2011, 05:26:00 PM »
"Free Stuff"

The folks who are getting the free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.

The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!

Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff   have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place.

We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.

Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.

The  United States  officially became a Republic in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that In 2012.  Failure to change that spells the end of the  United States  as we know it.

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A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!

Obama: Gone!
Borders: Closed!
Language: English only
Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
NO freebies to: Non-Citizens!

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Re: "Free Stuff"
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 05:54:08 PM »
No matter who is elected, this won't happen.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 05:56:02 PM »
No matter who is elected, this won't happen.

so says the idiot that will vote for Obama again.

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 06:31:20 PM »
No matter who is elected, this won't happen.


   Well,..
What will happen?

    Will the number of moochers controll the vote untill the US economy runs aground on a debt crunch?

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 11:49:00 PM »
How could any law make everyone speak "English only"?

Never gonna happen.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are not cultures. That is truly dumb.

No freebies to Israelis, how about that? They aren't citizens.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 11:51:27 AM »
How could any law make everyone speak "English only"?

Never gonna happen.


I agree with you up to a point.

That Americans are mostly monolingual is a disadvantage we need to change.

But printing every government form in six or ten languages is rediculous.

Look at how hard it is for Canada to keep two "official".

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 02:04:06 PM »
Look at how hard it is for Canada to keep two "official".

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It is not hard for Canada to do this, nor is it hard for Belgium, and Switzerland has FIVE languages, and prints everything in at least four of them. Canada has been bilingual forever. I can't remember when I saw a monolingual Canadian banknote. Do ypou seriously think that printing money in two languages costs more? It's no big deal.

Spanish and English in the Southwest and FL. French and English in New England. Creole in South FL.

Do you want to share a highway with people who cannot understand the signs, seriously? One acident could cost you a lot more than a few bilingual signs. And no, you cannot keep people from driving by denying them licenses. That will result in even worse accidents.



You can't force people to stop speaking their native language. The Nazis could not do this, even in Auschwitz.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 02:27:41 PM »
Is someone who promoted Spanish speaking the right person to ask about this?

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 02:58:09 PM »
Do you want to share a highway with people who cannot understand the signs, seriously? One acident could cost you a lot more than a few bilingual signs. And no, you cannot keep people from driving by denying them licenses. That will result in even worse accidents.

Most road signs (and *all* traffic control signs) are language agnostic. Knowing the shapes, colors, and base ten numbering is all that is required.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 02:59:22 PM »
Being as I am a linguist, I imagine that I know more about languages than you do.

What you know about Canada? Only that a few Quebecois who insist on being monolingual annoy other Canadians from English Canada. There has not been a monolingual PM in Canada for generations.

The fact is, that NO country has managed to eliminate people from communicating in their native tongue, anywhere. The best they can do is promote another language, as the mainland Chinese did with Mandarin in Taiwan, and teach it in the schools.

But Taiwanese still speak their native language. They still speak Polish in Hamtramck, French in New Orleans and Lafayette and Yiddish in Brownsville.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 03:03:43 PM »
Most road signs (and *all* traffic control signs) are language agnostic. Knowing the shapes, colors, and base ten numbering is all that is required.

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They are in Europe, but that is not the case here. Just look them. Most NO PARKING signs in Miami are in English, not the P with the slash through it. There are a lot of information signs that do not fit that standard.

But again, the issue is "can the national government dictate English only?" and the answer is no, it can't. This is a local issue, anyway.

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 06:11:41 PM »
This is a local issue, anyway.

kinda like health care...

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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 08:07:47 PM »
They are in Europe, but that is not the case here. Just look them. Most NO PARKING signs in Miami are in English, not the P with the slash through it. There are a lot of information signs that do not fit that standard.

Information signs are not traffic control signs.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 10:22:47 PM »
There are a lot of information signs that do not fit that standard.

and why should they?
where will that insane path lead?...every street/hwy sign in 10 different languages?
that's bullshit!
if I go to China, Russia, Poland, or Italy I don't expect all the traffic signs to be in English too.
you pretend there would be chaos, when all over the world there's not
of course mr literal you cant outlaw a language
but you can make English the official language
and people either learn it or they don't get catered to in some foreign language
all job apps, all voter cards, all govt forms, all classrooms need to be in English only
official government business at all levels would be conducted solely in English.
This includes all public documents, records, legislation, regulations,  hearings, official ceremonies & public meetings
using English will get you ahead in almost all cases here in the United States
the English language is the common thread that Americans of all backgrounds can share
currrently 31 states have some form of "English Official Language" as law
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 10:48:47 PM »
There are a lot of information signs that do not fit that standard.

and why should they?
where will that insane path lead?...every street/hwy sign in 10 different languages?
that's bullshit!
if I go to China, Russia, Poland, or Italy I don't expect all the traffic signs to be in English too.
you pretend there would be chaos, when all over the world there's not
of course mr literal you cant outlaw a language
but you can make English the official language
and people either learn it or they don't get catered to in some foreign language
all job apps, all voter cards, all govt forms, all classrooms need to be in English only
official government business at all levels would be conducted solely in English.
This includes all public documents, records, legislation, regulations,  hearings, official ceremonies & public meetings
using English will get you ahead in almost all cases here in the United States
the English language is the common thread that Americans of all backgrounds can share
currrently 31 states have some form of "English Official Language" as law

looks like XO the idiot wants the world to be idiot proof. the only way that could happens is if all liberals were aborted.