U.S. Government KNOWINGLY let Mutallab board Detroit flight

[BSB]

Ladies and gentlemen, progress, progress. Your bothering to respond to Snowblower is moving the discussion in the wrong direction. Backwards. We know what happened on Dec 25th, and we know what it means. Move on.

[Michael Tee]

<<That is interesting, you think that Al Queda has no presence in Yemen?>>

Sure they have a presence in Yemen.  They have a presence in Germany too and in France and Spain.    But the U.S. already has bases in Germany.  They probably need bases in Yemen now, that's the region where all their aggression seems to be focused at the moment.

[Plane]

Where we can persuede the locals to lock up the Al Queda we need do no more.

Yemen is marginal , they do lock up Al Queda but after a while they let them out again.

There is no particular reason to want a base in Yemen , but if the Al Queda is establishing a shadow government there it is worth doing, rooting them out.

[Michael Tee]

Same fundamental mistake, close them up, root them out.

You can't do it.  There's a billion of them and every day you're giving almost every one of them another good reason to hate your fucking guts.  How are you going to close up and root out a billion people?  While you're slowly blowing your brains out on wars that you can afford less and less?

The only policy that makes sense to to cut a deal with them - - you and the ZioNazis stop fucking with them and they stop fucking with you.

[BSB]

Ha ha ha.......

Key rist, what a waste of time you are, Snowblower.

[BT]

You can't do it.  There's a billion of them and every day you're giving almost every one of them another good reason to hate your fucking guts.

That assumes that all Muslims are members of Al Queda and it also assumes that no Muslim is an innocent bystander.

Is that your position?

[sirs]

He wishes

[Plane]

Same fundamental mistake, close them up, root them out.

You can't do it.  There's a billion of them and every day you're giving almost every one of them another good reason to hate your fucking guts.  How are you going to close up and root out a billion people?  While you're slowly blowing your brains out on wars that you can afford less and less?

The only policy that makes sense to to cut a deal with them - - you and the ZioNazis stop fucking with them and they stop fucking with you.

Depends on who you want to count.

Al Queda might be 100,000 or so , they are hard to count , but killing each and every is possible .


There are 300,000,000 Americans and about twice that many Europeans , who are all offended more at each Al Quieda killing than even Al Quieda itself is offended by Killing an Al Quieda.

If Al Quieda didn't have the habit of hideing amoung those we don't want to shoot the whole thing would not have lasted a month, consequently Al Quieda has no ability to "protect" any thing but itself.


Al Quieda hides its uselessness and shame behind bravado , what makes them better than a criminal organisation?

[BSB]

"Al Qaeda might be 100,000 or so..."

I doubt they have anywhere near that number. I suspect they'd be lucky to have more then a few thousand.

[Michael Tee]

<<That assumes that all Muslims are members of Al Queda and it also assumes that no Muslim is an innocent bystander.

<<Is that your position?>>

No, you read a lot into what I wrote.  I assumed that "a billion of them" (which obviously referred to the number of Muslims, not the number of al Qaeda) would be interpreted to mean a huge reservoir of people, with a whole spectrum of attitudes, the most extreme being al Qaeda operatives, then al Qaeda passive supporters willing to provide safe houses or sign medical certificates, then sympathizers of varying degrees, then those who don't sympathize but won't lift a finger to stop them, etc. Maybe that was my mistake - - shoulda spelled it out for ya.

My point was that the reservoir is big enough to constantly replenish their ranks no matter how many you kill off.  Big enough so that they'll always have their safe houses, their financial supporters, their sympathizers and helpers.    al Qaeda is more of an ideal than an army.  That idea will always find soldiers of one kind or another.  As long as you fuck with them, there will always be young men with nothing to lose who are ready and eager to find martyrdom in fucking with you.  And from time to time, they will succeed spectacularly, as on Sept. 11, and inspire millions more to strike the next blow or die trying.  

That's why you're on a one-way street that never ends.  You gotta find a new course.

[Michael Tee]

<<Al Queda might be 100,000 or so , they are hard to count , but killing each and every is possible .>>

LOL.  You been trying to wipe out al Qaeda for nine years now and every fucking week there have been stories about how many "top al Qaeda" leaders were killed by drones, air strikes, missile strikes, etc. and dozens of "militants" killed with them but IMHO you're no further ahead than when you started.


<<There are 300,000,000 Americans and about twice that many Europeans , who are all offended more at each Al Quieda killing than even Al Quieda itself is offended by Killing an Al Quieda.>>

Except for the relative handful of psychos in your Special Forces, Navy SEALS etc., who are the equivalent of the al Qaeda militants on the other side, nobody is offended enough to do anything about it.  Here's a little secret you may have overlooked - - in a no-holds-barred war between the rich and the powerful against the poor and the weak, there are a helluva lot of poor and weak and a relatively tiny number of rich and powerful.  The poor and the weak have many more to recruit from than the rich and the powerful.  Their resentment runs a lot deeper, because they know that they are the real "innocent victims," while the rich and the powerful know in their hearts that they are in the wrong, that they are the oppressors and the exploiters, that even the founder of their own phony religion has to admit that money is the root of all evil and that the rich have almost no chance of getting into heaven.

<<If Al Quieda didn't have the habit of hideing amoung those we don't want to shoot the whole thing would not have lasted a month . . . >>

Failure has a thousand excuses, but the one that is the most laughable of all is, "I failed because I am such a good guy."  News flash!  If you really were a good guy, nobody would want to be fighting you.

 <<consequently Al Quieda has no ability to "protect" any thing but itself.>>

That's a laugh.  They fly planes into buildings but want to protect themselves?    That's one of the secrets of their success - - they don't give a shit if they live or die.  They're not concerned with "protecting themselves," they're concerned with sacrificing themselves.  It's North Americans who are focused on "protecting" themselves and the assets they have stolen from the Third World.  They're so concerned about it they don't have the fucking guts to get down on the ground with the "terrorists" and fight them mano-a-mano.  They strike with unmanned - - great word, "unmanned" - - flyers launching bombs or missiles on defenceless villages, killing on a ratio of probably 20 innocent civilians for every "militant" killed - - recruiting probably 10 more al Qaeda for every one that you manage to kill.

Not only are you in a war you can't win, you're going broke fighting it.  Obama's a huge disappointment.  I really thought he was going to show the ZioNazis and the military-industrial complex the gate, make some moves to appease the Arab masses and get the U.S. on a new course, but that was a stupid pipe dream.  You're fucked and you're going to follow the one-way street that you're on all the way to the end.  Tough shit.  You brought it on yourselves.


<<Al Quieda hides its uselessness and shame behind bravado , what makes them better than a criminal organisation?>>

Criminal organizations take calculated risks with their own lives for money, al Qaeda members will sacrifice their own lives for an ideal. 

OK they're still a criminal organization but so what?  The U.S.A. itself is a criminal nation.  Which, for example, explains why they will not submit to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court of The Hague.  They still haven't paid the fine assessed against them by the World Court for their criminal activities in Nicaragua.  You guys are able to get away with the most laughable moral posturing I've ever seen - - that al Qaeda is a criminal organization, for example, when your whole fucking country is an outlaw nation - - because of sheer God-damn ignorance of the facts.  You probably didn't know about the World Court verdict, for example; or about the U.S. refusal to submit to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court established by the Treaty of Rome.  You don't know because the corporate-owned MSM make it their business that you shouldn't know - - about your own country's lawlessness and criminality.  Although they sure as hell have no problem in letting you know of the criminality of others.  It's hilarious.

[BSB]

Yeah, I'm sure the Muslims really like Al Qaeda. They, Al Qaeda, have killed about 100 Muslims to every one American they've killed. They did nothing in Iraq but kill Muslims. If they hadn't operated out of Afghanistan there'd be thousands of Afghans that would be alive today instead of dead.

Good old Al Qaeda, friend of the Islamic community.

[BSB]

Legal or illegal: A) that doesn't mean doctors weren't performing them, and B) have you ever heard of an airplane?

[BSB]

Ha, that last post of mine is in the wrong thread.

[Michael Tee]

<<Yeah, I'm sure the Muslims really like Al Qaeda. >>

Some do, some don't.  Like I said, there's a whole spectrum of Muslim opinion pro and con.  They're not a monolith.

<<They, Al Qaeda, have killed about 100 Muslims to every one American they've killed>>

Yeah, shocking isn't it?  To think that Muslims would kill one another in power struggles or political struggles or religious battles.  How horrible.  Why sometimes they act just like Christians!

Grow the fuck up, BSB.  Get back to me when you reach Grade 10 level.