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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #135 on: August 09, 2015, 03:31:12 AM »
But the sandra fluke situation was about depriving a woman medication due to the drug primary use is considered unacceptable and is denied being used to treat cancer.

Viagra has been considered not to be covered insurance should be denied because if it's primary use. I have a fatale heart condition and potentially viagra can be helpful to me and its not unreasonable to think it would be better than other meds.

Im talking why at least a provision for alternative use fir these controversial meds to be covered by insurance. My cost is over $600 a month without insurance .

In case you dont know viagra intended use to blodd pressure control but fell short of desired result but the noted side effects has made it profitable for a different use. Depite it fail it is recommended by doctors for blood pressure control.

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« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2015, 06:10:12 AM »
   BC pills are a prescription medicine, a pharmacist has no right to give it to you unless you have convinced a physician to write you a scrip.

   This is not how basic human rights work.

   You have a right to travel freely within this country , asking no permissions of anyone , until this right is taken by  due process.  It would be strange to require a scrip to take a day trip to the beach, unless you had lost this right via some court order.

   And no one should claim that they were denied the right to travel freely , if the reason they are not traveling is that the government hasn't bought them a tank of gas.

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2015, 10:20:10 AM »
You are babbling and make no sense.

Women's medicine is no different than men's medicine.
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2015, 10:32:28 AM »
None of those were denied its the coverage that was the issue and due tol financial situation some people may not be able to get medication.

Im not addressing right but access to medication for people with serious health issues.

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2015, 11:35:59 AM »
Many of those who oppose a woman's right to an abortion also oppose birth control of any type.
The Catholic Church opposes the concept that sex should be exclusively recreational: unless God's purpose of reproduction is included, sex is a sin, a mortal sin called lust.
sirs hates the idea of taxes contributing to something that might be pleasurable to women.  He thinks that nothing subsidized should be fun.


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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2015, 01:46:01 PM »
I see abortion as smoke screen against birth control that push the issue to extreme . Note the topic goes to late term mostly. I'm starting to think maybe these extreme are making the right to choose crowd more accepting to abortions .it looks like it

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« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2015, 02:51:59 PM »
The goal of at least some of the anti-choice people is to cause women to delay getting abortions so long that they can no longer get one legally.
They have eliminated half the abortion clinics with useless regulations in Texas already.
They are going after Planned Parenthood because they do not want women to plan their parenthood: they prefer leaving it up to chance, (ie God).
It would be interesting to learn how many of these fanatics have heard these words" "We didn't want to have you, but somehow you were had."
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2015, 03:48:03 PM »
You are babbling and make no sense

Women's medicine is no different than men's medicine.

Irrelevant. ..... there is no right to BC pills any more than there is to aspirin or a kidney transplant
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2015, 06:41:28 PM »


Women's medicine is no different than men's medicine.

Ah , you just want to let JEBush off the hook for his remark.
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“If you took dollar for dollar, though, I’m not sure we need half a billion dollars for women’s health issues,”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/08/04/jeb-bush-calls-for-defunding-of-planned-parenthood-then-quickly-clarifies-his-remarks-to-evangelicals/

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #144 on: August 09, 2015, 07:53:42 PM »
I did not hear Jeb say anything about Planned parenthood.
The more I hear the ratbag right rant about this, the more I feel compelled to make a donation to Planned parenthood.
This whole thing is just a stupid flap.

It is certainly better that fetal organs, tissue or whatever are used for medical purposes than it is  to throw it away.

The serious profiteering with regard to donations is done by blood banks. People in rural areas donate lots of blood that they thing will be used fpor people like them, when, in fact it is sold for hundreds per pint in large cities.
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #145 on: August 09, 2015, 09:06:10 PM »
  Why are you talking about the profit that Planned Parenthood is making?

  Who cares?

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #146 on: August 09, 2015, 09:21:35 PM »
Deflection 101.....when losing a debate,  change the subject
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« Reply #147 on: August 09, 2015, 09:39:47 PM »
sirs is the consistent LOSER here.

He likes to beat up on women. He thinks they are too stupid to make their own decisions, and for some reason need him to make it for them.
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2015, 09:51:59 PM »
Such ignorance,  especially as it relates to what sirs thinks & advocates.   Here's a hint....a woman can do any damn thing she wants and with whom she wants.   But there is no right to BC pills, and when a 3rd party innocent life is involved DOES have a right to life.  Period.   Good luck trying to twist that into some perverted notion of sirs demanding what women must do.      ::)
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #149 on: August 09, 2015, 10:43:52 PM »
   Why does the law suddenly get involved and forbid women from killing their babies after the birth event.

  It is when they are fourteen or seventeen that they really need the killin.