Are People Really "Born Gay"?

[Christians4LessGvt]

You have often said that you find gay sex utterly disgusting.
You are not in favor of their being treated equally.

You are spewing bigoted non-sense.
I do find gay sex disgusting....but I don't have to partake or be exposed to it.
I am in favor of homos being treated equally.
I treat homos equally in employment, as candidates, as friends, and as vendors.
I support homos having full rights under civil unions.
I do not support calling a horse a cow because a horse is not a cow.
That does not mean I hate horses, or that horses are not treated equally.

XO you are a typical liberal bigot.

[Plane]

You have often said that you find gay sex utterly disgusting.
You are not in favor of their being treated equally.

You are spewing bigoted non-sense.
I do find gay sex disgusting....but I don't have to partake or be exposed to it.
I am in favor of homos being treated equally.
I treat homos equally in employment, as candidates, as friends, and as vendors.
I support homos having full rights under civil unions.
I do not support calling a horse a cow because a horse is not a cow.
That does not mean I hate horses, or that horses are not treated equally.

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Well said.

[kimba1]

Ill apologize to some on the hate gay tag but not all. Since the outcome of the marrages has spurred some businesses to refuse services to gays and such. So the homophobic tags is not enirely without merit overall.


Define by centuries but modified also. Most of those marriages at one time did not acknowledge other marriages. Vatican two took forever to wipe that from our memories

[Christians4LessGvt]

Since the outcome of the marrages has spurred some businesses to refuse services to gays and such. So the homophobic tags is not enirely without merit overall.

So if business are "homophobic" that refuse to violate their religious beliefs and cater gay weddings...again not refusing to serve gays....just gay weddings....then people that claim this is hate or homophobic then those people are Christian/Muslim Haters and Christian/MuslimPhobics.

[kimba1]

Nope.these banned service has not been stated before this situation. Meaning these stated bans just started .

[Xavier_Onassis]

To say that baking a cake for a person in exchange for a lucrative profit is "support" is stretching it, but it is fine with me. There are plenty more businesses than can cater to weddings.

There is no shortage of churches that will agree to marry gays, either, so this is unlikely to be any serious problem.

[Christians4LessGvt]

it is fine with me. There are plenty more businesses than can cater to weddings.

Yes exactly.....then we agree...2EachHisOwn.

[Plane]

To say that baking a cake for a person in exchange for a lucrative profit is "support" is stretching it, but it is fine with me. There are plenty more businesses than can cater to weddings.

There is no shortage of churches that will agree to marry gays, either, so this is unlikely to be any serious problem.

That ain't the problem .

The problem is that those who don't want to participate are going to loose tax exemption , or the right of free speech, or get jailed.

[sirs]

BINGO

Now, what does the 1st amendment of the Constitution remind us of again?   Oh yea.....Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

No where in the Bill of Rights, or the Constitution for that matter, is there some right not to be offended.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Catholic Church has never been denied tax exempt status for refusal to marry non Catholics. The same is true of Jewish synagogues.
I don't see how there is any legal obligation for any religious entity to provide services for those it does not wish to.

I don't see what this has to do with offending anyone, either.

Religions are free to say what they wish, believe what they wish, whatever, unless they are preaching murder and mayhem.

 

[kimba1]

For its not bakeries i have a problem but more specificly pharmacies i have an issue. Because of religion a pharmacist refuse to return a prescription back because it was a ru486 type of med.


The response that article was the person could of gotten it replaced shortly afterwards. Years since i found this fact almost fataly false due to my experience taking care of my parents. The longest I've filled a prescription was 10days. My last refill took 5days.



Now i got no problem if the business post notice they refuse service so they dont even have to see they people they dont want to service.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Pharmacies are not like churches, as they are licensed by state and local governments and they deal with public health.

I agree that any pharmacy that decides that it will not dispense certain drugs, like BC pills, should clearly announce this in writing. There is no need to waste people's time.

I am not sure of the legal obligations of pharmacies, but most of them do not refuse to dispense anything on religious grounds.

[Plane]

I am not sure of the legal obligations of pharmacies, but most of them do not refuse to dispense anything on religious grounds.

So many Doctors and Pharmacological suppliers have refused to supply deadly drugs to States that execution by injection has become difficult.

[kimba1]

Looks like refusing service due to religion is not just one issue. It may cover more things.

https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/08/3/gr080310.html

[kimba1]

Is death penalty really that big a concern to prolifers? Seriously i got the impression nobody here has a problem with it