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Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« on: June 14, 2016, 10:49:51 AM »
Trump incorrectly claimed that Omar Mateen was born in Afghanistan,. This is not true and  Trump either knoew this ands lied, or is just effing ignorant. Then he says tha6t Masteen PARENTS should have been excluded.

This is important because  there is NO WAY Immigration can exclude a qualified refugee from the country based on what his UNBORN CHILDREN might become.

Omar Mateen was born in the USA. Immigration could not exclude him. His father is not a terrorist or a bad person, and was not one when he was admitted.

Trump says all Muslims must be excluded "until we figure this out". What is there to figure out?  How to predict what some immigrant's yet unborn  child might become?

Trump's speech is both inaccurate and  ignorant. Trump is either smart enough to know that he is spewing nonsense or he knowingly spews it to get  the rabble, the dimwits ans the lumpenproletarians  riled up. Either way, it shows how totally INCOMPETENT and UNFIT this schmuck is to be president of this country.
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 12:30:25 PM »
Seriously?  This is what you're going to try and hang your hat on?  That he may have been in error as to what Country Mateen was born?  Its on record that he's an American born Muslim. 

Let's put it this way...Trump didn't even make the qualifying rounds when it comes to Clinton's Gold Medal performance for lying & incompotence
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 12:37:18 PM »
Trump is a ranting fool. All you have to do is listen to him.

How can you screen out immigrants based on what their (innocent) unborn children might become?

How long would Trump's prohibition of Muslin=ms last if we had to wait until we had a formula to predict the personality of their (innocent) unborn children?

I'd say forever, or until this scurvy swine was impeached and thrown out of office.

I graciously added the word (innocent) just to make you happy, sirs.
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 01:23:32 PM »
Clinton is a corrupt fool. All you have to do is listen to her.

(that's how this works right?...just say so, and that makes it so, right?)

And she is in no way innocent, either
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 05:37:31 PM »
Clinton knows more about government than Trump by far.
Trump is best at ripping people off in his casinos, real estate scams and phony "universities"
Trump does not think anything through before he shoots off his mouth and says really dumb shit, like saying that Mateen's parents should have been denied entry because of what Mateen turned out to be three decades later.

That is just stupid. Trump has not submitted his tax forms and has said that he will not do so.
Why do you suppose that is?

Every candidate since Nixon has done  this. Trump has wicked shit to hide, obviously.
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 05:51:57 PM »
Oh, there's no doubt that Clinton knows exponentially more about the corruption and back door deals that Trump could never possibly reach

And you really have no leg to stand on in trying to claim something to hide, while your gal not only used a private server against all Federal rules/laws, but tried to completely wipe it clean, before being made to hand it over to the FBI.  Nice try, though
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2016, 05:54:17 PM »
I have a private computer, so do you.

When will Trump show us his tax returns?

Why do you think he should not do what every other candidate since Nixon has done?
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 06:01:17 PM »
We don't work for the Government.  We're not mandated to use a Government Computer, as the SOS is.  We're not mandated to back up EVERYTHING performed on that server, as the SoS is.  Like I said, you have no leg to stand on, in trying to claim something to hide
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016, 07:09:48 PM »
  I work for the Government .
  If I just bring a blank flash memory to work I will be fired and prosecuted.

  My part of the government takes security seriously.

   This e-Mail thing is a lot worse than just that Hillary considers herself exempt from the rules.

    Her obvious motive is to have her actions and choices escape the FOIA and the knowledge of the public.

   This is very serious that as Secretary of State she thought her personal security from the American people was more important than the governments security against its enemies.

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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2016, 07:19:34 PM »
  I work for the Government .
  If I just bring a blank flash memory to work I will be fired and prosecuted.

  My part of the government takes security seriously.

   This e-Mail thing is a lot worse than just that Hillary considers herself exempt from the rules.

    Her obvious motive is to have her actions and choices escape the FOIA and the knowledge of the public.

   This is very serious that as Secretary of State she thought her personal security from the American people was more important than the governments security against its enemies
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BINGO!
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 10:32:07 PM »
They have been harping on this server crap for over a year now. If it were actually seriously important, they would have t9ied it all up in three months.

Trump is the threat to this country, not Hillary. As President she will use the White House server and this will be moot.

Trump is an ignorant and a stupid demagogue. He is the least competent presidential candidate ever,
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 03:34:48 AM »
They have been harping on this server crap for over a year now. If it were actually seriously important, they would have t9ied it all up in three months.

Now you can understand why The Dems, made sure to obstruct and drag this out for so long.  Without that level of Obstruction, with the help of the White House, it would have been. 


Trump is the threat to this country, not Hillary.

Clinton is the one who actually put this country at grave risk, and compromised national security, simply to keep whatever she was doing as SoS and with the Clinton Foundation, a secret from congressional oversight.  That makes her the FAR bigger threat, than what Trump has or hasn't done about his taxes.


As President she will use the White House server and this will be moot.

Why would it be moot?  She can claim the same need
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 05:19:08 AM »
They have been harping on this server crap for over a year now. If it were actually seriously important, they would have t9ied it all up in three months.

Trump is the threat to this country, not Hillary. As President she will use the White House server and this will be moot.

Trump is an ignorant and a stupid demagogue. He is the least competent presidential candidate ever,

If they followed the law to the letter , Hillary Clinton would be on trial by now.

Do not call it less serious just because she has the clout to beat the rap.

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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 10:40:41 AM »
His father is not a terrorist or a bad person,

We are not sure of that.
The father has expressed support for the Islamist Taliban group which has killed many US soldiers.
We certainly don't need to be importing people into our country that are Taliban supporters.
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Re: Trump lies and shows his ignorance
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 12:13:28 PM »
The father of the Orlando shooter was not a Taliban supporter when he arrived here, so this point is moot.

The actual enemy in Afghanistan was not the Taliban, it was Al Qaeda. The US fights the Taliban because it is resisting the government the US arranged to install in Afghanistan.

The Soviets invaded Afghanistan because Brzezinski was using it to sent Muslim religious fanatics, trained in Saudi Arabia into Soviet Central Asia , to  destabilize that part of the Soviet Union. His motive was vengeance  on the Soviets because decades before, Stalin wiped out most of the Polish aristocracy in Katyn Woods,and blamed it on Hitler. The US erroneously allowed the Polish fanatic, Brzezinski to use our country for a program that was contrary to US interests.  This is the sort of black ops crap the CIA has done for years that have endangered our country and our people.

Why should Trump not show his tax forms like every other candidate?

I accuse all of you of dodging this issue. This is entirely unrelated to Hillary.

Why give this exploitative asshole. of all people, a pass?

If Hillary can do this, so can Trump.
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