Iraq/Iran Study Groups

[sirs]

[Xavier_Onassis]

No matter what the US does or when, Iran will always share a border with Iraq, as well as a majority Shiite population. Iraqi Shiites will always visit shrines in Iran, Iranians will always visit shrines in Iraq.

An American complaining about Iranian interest in Iraq makes about as much sense as an Iranian complaining about US involvement in Canada, or Canadian involvement in the US.

This cartoonist seems to ignore geography and history.

[sirs]

An American complaining about Iranian interest in Iraq makes about as much sense as an Iranian complaining about US involvement in Canada, or Canadian involvement in the US.  This cartoonist seems to ignore geography and history.

And the previous responder seems to ignore the current history & threat that Iran poses vs the threat that Canada poses

[sirs]

[Universe Prince]

Maybe I missed a news story (wouldn't be the first time), but what makes you think the Iraq Study Group report is aligned with the interests of the Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[Xavier_Onassis]

An American complaining about Iranian interest in Iraq makes about as much sense as an Iranian complaining about US involvement in Canada, or Canadian involvement in the US.  This cartoonist seems to ignore geography and history.

And the previous responder seems to ignore the current history & threat that Iran poses vs the threat that Canada poses
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You have missed the point, entirely.

Iran is a neighbor of Iraq. It will always be a neighbor of Iraq, just as the US is and always will be a neighbor of Canada.


Iran poses ZERO threat to the US. Iran has not been an agressor since times of the Roman Empire.

Go on, Pray for Victory in the Iraqi Crusade.

It's a dumb cartoon, and now you have found it a partner. Obviously James Baker is an ally of Ahmadinejad.


NOTE:  Israel is NOT a part of the US, and will never be one.

[sirs]

An American complaining about Iranian interest in Iraq makes about as much sense as an Iranian complaining about US involvement in Canada, or Canadian involvement in the US.  This cartoonist seems to ignore geography and history.

And the previous responder seems to ignore the current history & threat that Iran poses vs the threat that Canada poses
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Iran is a neighbor of Iraq. It will always be a neighbor of Iraq, just as the US is and always will be a neighbor of Canada.  Iran poses ZERO threat to the US. Iran has not been an agressor since times of the Roman Empire.  Go on, Pray for Victory in the Iraqi Crusade.

NOTE:  Israel is NOT a part of the US, and will never be one.

I realize Xo your propensity for not getting it, or perhaps worse, getting it, but trying to convince others otherwise.  The point remains, that the U.S. has nothing to worry about from a neighboring Canada.  Iraq has everything to worry about from a neighboring Iran.

NOTE;  Israel has nothing to do with this thread

[sirs]

Maybe I missed a news story (wouldn't be the first time), but what makes you think the Iraq Study Group report is aligned with the interests of the Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

Since it advocates that the U.S. vacate the area sooner rather than later.  Perhaps before Iraq is ready to handle their own security.  I'm pretty sure Ahnadinejad would be salivating at both prospects.

[Universe Prince]

Is it your assertion then, Sirs, that our only course of action in Iraq should be the exact opposite of anything Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad might like, regardless of what that course of action actually entails?

[sirs]

Is it your assertion then, Sirs, that our only course of action in Iraq should be the exact opposite of anything Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad might like, regardless of what that course of action actually entails?

No

[Universe Prince]

So if we decided to do something that happened to align with something Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would like to see happen, then that something could still be the right thing to do?

[sirs]

So if we decided to do something that happened to align with something Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would like to see happen, then that something could still be the right thing to do?

"Could" being the operable word there.  I'm not seeing it currently however

[Xavier_Onassis]

Iraq has everything to worry about from a neighboring Iran.

The US didn't about Iran conquering Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, which was started, by Iraq, by the way.

No matter what the US does, Iran and Iraq will ever be neighbors.

Iraq has about 23 million, and decreasing. Iran has about 77 million, and growing.

So what do you propose? Moving Iraq? Moving Iran?
 Keeping a huge American Army in Iraq forever?

I am afraid none of these is within the realm of possibility.
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NOTE;  Israel has nothing to do with this thread

Were it not for Israel, there would have been no Iraq War. Every one of the prominant NeoCons except Cheney is Jewish, and all of them are Zionists.

The US cannot invade Iran. If it were to try, Iran could shut off nearly all oil from the Persian Gulf, and it would not require nukes, either.

I guess all we can do here against any Iranian threat is draw stupid cartoons.

It is just as well that Iran proposes no threat to the US.

Iraq and Israel will just have to learn to look out for themselves.

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[Plane]

The US cannot invade Iran. If it were to try, Iran could shut off nearly all oil from the Persian Gulf, and it would not require nukes, either.



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Would shutting Europe and China's oil supply down really hurt us?

In the US we buy more oil from Canada and Mexico than from Iran and Iraq.

China might get by with its Cuban oil but Europe will be severely starveing.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Would shutting Europe and China's oil supply down really hurt us?

In the US we buy more oil from Canada and Mexico than from Iran and Iraq.

China might get by with its Cuban oil but Europe will be severely starveing.
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You might be  clueless    as to how international commodities are bought and sold.

China does not import oil from Cuba. China does not export oil to anyone. Cuba has 11 million people and any amount of oil it uses in comparison with China, which has 1,1000 million would be inconsequential. But there is no oil commerce between China and Cuba at all, so this is meaningless.

Neither the United States nor the US government (except for the emergency reserves)  does not import oil. Companies import oil, and they pay the world price. If there is a small supply and a high demand, the price goes up everywhere.

If no oil went to Europe or Japan or China, this would shut down both imports from and exports to either region. I don't suppose you have bought any products recently that were not made in the US, so this would naturally not affect you .