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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on May 24, 2012, 11:31:55 PM

Title: Cool site
Post by: Plane on May 24, 2012, 11:31:55 PM
Do Democrats do math?


http://www.politicalmathblog.com/ (http://www.politicalmathblog.com/)

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I will be accused of massaging the data by people who don't understand what I'm doing here. I'm pointing out the data massaging on Nutting's side and calling him on it. I'm saying "If you're going to use the CBO estimate, use the f***ing CBO estimate!" Don't use just the part you want and then pretend like the rest of it doesn't exist. Commit yourself to the data you're using and follow it, even if it doesn't go where you want it to go.
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Plane on May 25, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
http://www.politicalmathblog.com/ (http://www.politicalmathblog.com/)

(http://www.politicalmathblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/FairShareChart.png)
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 26, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
Biased.

Cool if you are Gordon Gekko.

Uncool if you are not.
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Plane on May 27, 2012, 12:45:54 AM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on May 26, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
Biased.

Cool if you are Gordon Gekko.

Uncool if you are not.

By "biased" you imply that there is more to the truth.

What elese should be there?
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 27, 2012, 01:11:28 PM
It is a right wing propaganda website.
It is NOT COOL in my book.

Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Plane on May 27, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
So you are not disputeing the truth of the information being presented?

Do you think that truth has a bias for the right?
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 28, 2012, 01:15:31 PM
It is a selective view of the truth.

It assumes that property ownership is paramount.

It assumes that the wealth of those at the top is earned or deserved in some absolute way. It assumes that the government and the society is not constructed in such a way as to enable the wealthiest to get wealthy and to stay wealthy.

Again, it is propaganda. Half truths.
Title: Re: Cool site
Post by: Plane on May 28, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on May 28, 2012, 01:15:31 PM
It is a selective view of the truth.

It assumes that property ownership is paramount.

It assumes that the wealth of those at the top is earned or deserved in some absolute way. It assumes that the government and the society is not constructed in such a way as to enable the wealthiest to get wealthy and to stay wealthy.

Again, it is propaganda. Half truths.

What justifies the assumption that the welth of anyone at all is forfiet to the whim of someone who did truely nothing to earn it?

Where is the other half of trhe truth that you want?

Can you accept only the half of the truth that you like best?