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When does Palin get her apologies?
« on: December 30, 2010, 03:50:53 PM »
Sarah Palin deserves an apology. When she said that the new health-care law would lead to "death panels" deciding who gets life-saving treatment and who does not, she was roundly denounced and ridiculed.

Now we learn, courtesy of one of the ridiculers -- The New York Times -- that she was right.

Under a new policy not included in the law for fear the administration's real end-of-life game would be exposed, a rule issued by the recess-appointed Dr. Donald M. Berwick, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, calls for the government to pay doctors to advise patients on options for ending their lives. These could include directives to forgo aggressive treatment that could extend their lives.

This rule will inevitably lead to bureaucrats deciding who is "fit" to live and who is not.

The effect this might have on public opinion, which by a solid majority opposes Obamacare, is clear from an e-mail obtained by the Times. It is from Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), who sent it to people working with him on the issue. Oregon and Washington are the only states with assisted-suicide laws, a preview of what is to come at the federal level if this new regulation is allowed to stand. Blumenauer wrote in his November e-mail: "While we are very happy with the result, we won't be shouting it from the rooftops because we aren't out of the woods yet. This regulation could be modified or reversed, especially if Republican leaders try to use this small provision to perpetuate the 'death panel' myth."

Ah, but it's not a myth, and that's where Palin nailed it.

All inhumanities begin with small steps; otherwise the public might rebel against a policy that went straight to the "final solution." All human life was once regarded as having value, because even government saw it as "endowed by our Creator." This doctrine separates us from plants, microorganisms and animals.

Doctors once swore an oath, which reads in part: "I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion." Did Dr. Berwick, a fan of rationed care and the British National Health Service, ever take that oath? If he did, it appears he no longer believes it.

Do you see where this leads?

First the prohibition against abortion is removed and "doctors" now perform them.
Then the assault on the infirm and elderly begins.
Once the definition of human life changes, all human lives become potentially expendable if they don't measure up to constantly "evolving" government standards.

It will all be dressed up with the best possible motives behind it and sold to the public as the ultimate benefit.  The killings, uh, terminations, will take place out of sight so as not to disturb the masses who might have a few embers of a past morality still burning in their souls. People will sign documents testifying to their desire to die, and the government will see it as a means of "reducing the surplus population," to quote Charles Dickens.

When life is seen as having ultimate value, individuals and their doctors can make decisions about treatment that are in the best interests of patients. But when government is looking to cut costs as the highest good and offers to pay doctors to tell patients during their annual visits that they can choose to end their lives rather than continue treatment, that is more than the proverbial camel's nose under the tent. That is the next step on the way to physician-assisted suicide and, if not stopped, government-mandated euthanasia.

It can't happen here? Based on what standard? Yes it can happen in America, and it will if the new Republican class in Congress doesn't stop it.


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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 05:17:29 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 04:33:41 PM »
They're Back! The Return of the Death Panels

They were supposed to be gone. They were supposed never to have existed. Remember the foofaraw over the part of ObamaCare that was going to have Medicare finance, uh, consultations about end-of-life treatment? They soon were dubbed death panels. The name stuck, and every time advocates of the idea derided it -- untrue! fictional! absurd! wholly imaginary! -- they only gave it more currency.

Which term do you prefer, end-of-life counseling or death panels?

It makes quite a difference when discussing the issue. Because when it comes to a political conflict, vocabulary remains the Little Round Top of every engagement, the strategic height that determines the outcome of the battle. And any mention of death tends to, well, kill off enthusiasm for a proposal. Whether we're talking death panels or the death tax. (Its advocates much prefer to speak of the estate tax even if it's the same thing.) Why be blunt? Especially if it's going to cost your side of the debate votes.

Awkward facts must be sidestepped, euphemisms invented. The way abortion has become Choice. Names count; what a proposal is called may determine whether it ever gets into law. And so the death panels/end-of-life consultations had to be dropped from the final version of ObamaCare, which goes by an official euphemism of its own: the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) of 2009. And its Section 1233 raised concerns that the patient might be protected to death.

At the least the controversial section was sure to produce a whole new para-medical sub-specialty. For where there's a Medicare payment, payees are bound to spring up. (In economicspeak, this is called incentivizing.) What do you think the practitioners of this new art/science would be called? Nothing very precise, one can be sure. Preferably something long and latinate, a term that softens the hard edges of its meaning, something high-toned, even classical. How about thanatopsists?

You can almost see the new occupation being plugged into every top-flight medical center's table of organization. ("Thanatopsy? It's in Annex B on Level II. You'll have to take the elevator to the main floor, cross the parking lot, go through the underground garage, enter the red door and get off on Blue Level. It's simple. Just follow the signs. Be sure to bring your parking ticket, photographic ID, proof of insurance, medical records, list of pharmaceuticals, and....")

Thanatopsy. What better way for fledgling bioethicists to begin a long career of not calling things by their right names? Why alarm people by facing the facts of life, or rather death? Better to speak of end-of-life care or advance planning or, well, anything but death. Euphemism is the health of bioethics, which is never to be confused with ethics, or at least the kind explored by Aristotle or Bonhoeffer.

It's a strange thing: The very people so eager to plan for death never use the word. In any event, Section 1233 and its provision for periodic consultations about (insert appropriate euphemism here) never made it into law. Oh, death, where is thy sting, grave thy victory?

Answer: In a brand-new Medicare regulation in effect as of this brand-new year -- January 1, 2011 A.D. Issuing a regulation is always the fallback position for an administration that can't convince Congress to follow its lead. What an inconvenience it is to have to deal with popularly elected legislators anyway; they're so fickle, so sensitive, so slow to see reason ... and so accountable to the voters at the next election. Why not just work around them? Spare them the heat. We'd be doing them a favor, right?

And so it was done. Section 1233 now has been reborn as a Medicare regulation authorizing payment for "voluntary advance planning" to discuss, uh, end-of-life issues with patients and provide them with information about preparing an "advance directive" should they develop a life-threatening illness. Or well before.

With the disappearance of the old-time family doctor (and friend) in American medicine, the kind of physician who might be counted on to know a patient's condition, convictions, temperament and particular idiosyncrasies, we can now rely on experts to conduct these consultations. What a comfort. Kind of.

Don't get me wrong. There's no reason to doubt the president when he assures us in his ever-delicate way that there's nothing in his vast new health plan that "would pull the plug on grandma." These doctors, or some specially trained intern on their staff, would just ask the old lady a few questions periodically.

But as every polemicist knows, the way a question is asked can determine the answer. To quote one of those experts -- a thanatopsist? -- at the University of Michigan, someone with heart disease might be asked: "If you have another heart attack and your heart stops beating, would you want us to try to restart it?" Or someone with emphysema could be asked, "Do you want to go on a breathing machine for the rest of your life?" Or the cancer patient would be asked, "When the time comes, do you want us to use technology to try and delay your death?" As if anyone could know when the time will come, and how the patient will feel about it then. And please note the phraseology: It's not save your life, but delay your death. Never underestimate the power of negative thinking.

Life-and-death decisions that once could be safely left to the common-sense wisdom of the doctor most familiar with the patient now can be boiled down to a standard form--and a standard, billable procedure. Welcome to this Brave New World where any mention of death is banished. Just call it end-of-life. Euphemism is the first sign that you don't want to look too closely at what is being proposed.

Like a zombie who was supposed to have disappeared at the end of the first act of this drama, Section 1233 now has been revived. Even though it's taken on the form of a regulation instead of legislation. Thanks to the convenience of modern bureaucracy, all that messy business of congressional hearings and votes and open debate can be avoided just by issuing a new rule. But don't noise it about. Its modest backers have tried to keep its resuscitation as quiet as possible.

To quote an e-mail sent out by the Hon. Earl Blumenauer, a congressman from Oregon and an enthusiastic backer of this stealth regulation, the new rule represents a "quiet victory." Or as he told supporters: "While we are very happy with the result, we won't be shouting it from the rooftops. ... The longer this goes unnoticed, the better our chances of keeping it."

The surest sign of a suspect political project is that it has to be adopted as quietly as possible. In this case, quiet as death.

So those celebrating this latest advance in society's pervasive culture of death are advised to sip their champagne without making much ado about it.

No sense in alarming the rubes, who tend to have this irrational attachment to life.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 09:27:56 PM »
We don't need a death panel to tell us to the plug on the life support system that's keeping Sarah Palin going. She's definitely brain dead.

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 10:39:39 PM »
Your opinion is duly noted.  By all means let's ignore an opportunity to discuss "end of life counseling", as the left kept claiming was never in play, and instead dump on Palin.
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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 11:11:14 PM »
better to attack Palin that face the facts!
ha ha ha .....what a joke!
SIRS they wanna kill the babies and the old people too!


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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 11:14:11 PM »
Why is a discussion of end of life counseling contingent on an apology to Palin?

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 11:33:58 PM »
SIRS actually they are gonna kill a lot of old people with or without death panels
think about it.....who has the most health problems?
old people.....
so if you add millions of new patients with a promise of "free" medical care
just like every place else....the waits become longer..
and of course healthcare will be rationed due to overwhelming new demand
so some old people will be effectively pushed to the back of the line waiting their turn
and of course some of the old people will croak while they wait for various procedures and appointments
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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 01:15:27 AM »
Why is a discussion of end of life counseling contingent on an apology to Palin?

It's kinda approaching the " well d'uh", in that Palin was ridiculed, demeaned, castigated, etc., for daring to deduce the eventual evolvement of death panels.....ooops, my bad, "end of life counseling".  And now we see that Obama, having not gotten the legislators to keep such "counseling" within the 2000+monstrosity of a health care bill, does so with bureacratic fiat.  Proving Palin correct, and most of her castigators as simply narrow minded hate-filled baffoons, who merely want to dump more on Palin that discuss this form of cost containing counseling
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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 01:42:33 AM »
Why is a discussion of end of life counseling contingent on an apology to Palin?

It's kinda approaching the " well d'uh", in that Palin was ridiculed, demeaned, castigated, etc., for daring to deduce the eventual evolvement of death panels.....ooops, my bad, "end of life counseling".  And now we see that Obama, having not gotten the legislators to keep such "counseling" within the 2000+monstrosity of a health care bill, does so with bureacratic fiat.  Proving Palin correct, and most of her castigators as simply narrow minded hate-filled baffoons, who merely want to dump more on Palin that discuss this form of cost containing counseling

So who in here do you expect to apologize to Palin, so that we can get on with the whole death panel discussion.

Like defining what that really means and what we think it means.

And is it unprecedented or is it something that already is in practice in some form under the current/old system?

And if it is all about the Benjamins and cutting federal spending, what spending is not up for discussion?








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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 02:40:28 AM »
Why is a discussion of end of life counseling contingent on an apology to Palin?

It's kinda approaching the " well d'uh", in that Palin was ridiculed, demeaned, castigated, etc., for daring to deduce the eventual evolvement of death panels.....ooops, my bad, "end of life counseling".  And now we see that Obama, having not gotten the legislators to keep such "counseling" within the 2000+monstrosity of a health care bill, does so with bureacratic fiat.  Proving Palin correct, and most of her castigators as simply narrow minded hate-filled baffoons, who merely want to dump more on Palin that discuss this form of cost containing counseling

So who in here do you expect to apologize to Palin, so that we can get on with the whole death panel discussion.

Anyone that wishes to.  Anyone that was so afront at Palin for even daring to opine such zaniness, that now is apparently becoming a reality

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 02:46:49 AM »
Then i guess we shall wait patiently for those so moved to offer that apology, so that the real discussion can begin.

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2011, 03:41:05 AM »
I guess so, though my question posed in the thread wasn't predicated on preventing any further discussion on the topic of Death Panels.  That was your leap.  I was merely inquiring as to when can we expect any apologies to be headed towards Palin from those who demagogued her on this issue. 

If you hadn't guessed it by now, it was rhetorical
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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2011, 04:04:55 AM »
I guess so, though my question posed in the thread wasn't predicated on preventing any further discussion on the topic of Death Panels.  That was your leap.  I was merely inquiring as to when can we expect any apologies to be headed towards Palin from those who demagogued her on this issue. 

If you hadn't guessed it by now, it was rhetorical

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Re: When does Palin get her apologies?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2011, 04:46:29 AM »
Yea, ......... and?  Criticising a poster for dumping on Palin is akin to demanding an apology before being able to move on??  Perhaps I need to be provided the latest saloon parameters for pre-approved criticising. 
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