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Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« on: June 04, 2010, 01:39:49 AM »
Lift the Siege of Gaza

Posted By Patrick J. Buchanan On June 3, 2010 @ 11:00 pm In Uncategorized | No Comments

In June 1948, our wartime ally imposed a blockade on Berlin, cutting off and condemning to death or Stalinist domination 2 million Germans, most of whom, not long before, had cheered Adolf Hitler.

Harry Truman responded with the Berlin airlift, in perhaps the most magnanimous act of the Cold War.

For nine months, U.S. pilots flew into Tempelhof, carrying everything from candy to coal, saving a city and earning the eternal gratitude of the people of Berlin, and admiration everywhere that moral courage is admired.

That was an America that lived its values.

And today, President Obama should end his and his country’s shameful silence over the inhumane blockade of Gaza that is denying 1.5 million beleaguered people the basic necessities of a decent life.

Time to start acting like America again.

That bloody debacle in the Eastern Mediterranean last Sunday was an inevitable result of Israel doing what it always seems to do: going beyond what is essential to her security, to impose collective punishment upon any and all it regards as hostile to Israel.

Israel claims, and film confirms, that its commandos rappelling down onto the Turkish ship were attacked with sticks and metal rods. One was tossed off a deck, another tossed overboard into a lifeboat.

But that 2 a.m. boarding of an unarmed ship with an unarmed crew, carrying no munitions or weapons, 65 miles at sea, was an act of piracy. What the Israeli commandos got is what any armed hijacker should expect who tries to steal a car from a driver who keeps a tire iron under the front seat.

And the response of these highly trained naval commandos to the resistance they encountered? They shot and killed nine passengers, and wounded many more.

But we have a blockade of Gaza, say the Israelis, and this flotilla was a provocation. Indeed, it was. And Selma was a provocation. The marchers at Edmund Pettus Bridge were disobeying orders of the governor of Alabama and state police not to march.

Yet, today, liberal Democrats who regard Martin Luther King as a moral hero for championing nonviolent civil disobedience to protest injustice are cheering not the unarmed passengers trying to break the Gaza blockade, but the Israelis enforcing the blockade.

Where were these fellows when "Bull" Connor really needed them?

Comes the retort: Israel is a friend and ally, and we stand with our friends.

But is not Turkey a friend and ally of 50 years, whose soldiers died alongside ours in Korea and who accepted Jupiter missiles targeted on Russia, even before the Cuban missile crisis? Was it not Turkey whose citizens were wounded and killed in the bloody debacle?

Why are we not at least even-handed between our friends?

On the trip to Israel where he was blindsided by news that Israel would build 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem, Joe Biden told Shimon Peres, "There is absolutely no space between the United States and Israel when it comes to Israel’s security."

And that is the problem.

America is a superpower with interests in an Arab world of 300 million and an Islamic world of 1.5 billion — interests Israel treats with indifference if not contempt when it comes to doing what she regards as necessary for her security.

While Israel had a right to build a wall to protect her people from terror attack, did she have a right to build it on Palestinian land?

While Israel had a right to go after Hezbollah when her soldiers were shot on the border and several kidnapped, did Israel have a right to conduct a five-week bombing campaign that smashed Lebanon, killing hundreds of civilians and creating upward of a million refugees?

While Israel had a right to go into Gaza to stop the firing of crude rockets on Sderot, did she have a right to smash utilities and public buildings and kill 1,400 people, most of them civilians?

Is whatever Israel decides to do in the name of her security fine with us, because there is "absolutely no space" between our interests and hers, our values and Israel’s values?

Even with Winston Churchill’s Britain, there was "space" between us on strategic goals and national policies.

Israel has a right to secure Gaza to deny Hamas access to weapons, especially rockets that could reach Israel. But that does not justify denying 1.5 million people what they need to live in decency.

According to The Washington Post, "80 percent of the population (of Gaza) depends on charity. Hospitals, schools, electricity systems and sewage treatment facilities are all in deep disrepair."

With our silence, we support this. And we wonder why they hate us.

Obama should tell the Israelis that Joe got it wrong. There is space between us. The Gaza siege must end. And America will herself be sending aid, but will also support Israel’s right to inspect trucks and ships to see to it no weapons get through to Gaza.

Let’s start behaving like who we once were.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 01:45:15 AM »
Maybe we could practice by lifting the Cuba Embargo.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 03:01:29 AM »
Lift the most lethal embargo first, stop the greater suffering.  The Cubans can take your embargo, and get by in spite of it.  They're Communists.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 01:25:41 AM »
Is there a Gazan government?

Shouldn't that be the first responsibility for preventing,catching or procicuteing perhaps preventing rocket assaults?


Lets suppose that angry Texans were fireing mildly deadly missles into Mexico, would it be innapropriate for the state or Federal government of Texas or the US to stop them?

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 01:36:54 AM »
<<Is there a Gazan government?>>

Hamas, the duly elected government of the Palestinians.

<<Shouldn't that be the first responsibility for preventing,catching or procicuteing perhaps preventing rocket assaults?>>

Yeah.  Like the first responsibility for preventing, catching or prosecuting the Cuban mercenaries who invaded the Bay of Pigs belonged to the U.S. government.  Funny how sometimes governments just can't seem to fulfill their first responsibilities, can they?  Can't be everywhere all the time I guess.

<<Lets suppose that angry Texans were fireing mildly deadly missles into Mexico, would it be innapropriate for the state or Federal government of Texas or the US to stop them?>>

Sure, and if they didn't, then I'm sure you'd have no problems with the Mexican Army flooding over the border to take care of that problem themselves, would you?  And killing hundreds of American civilians in the process, that would be OK too, right?

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 02:07:27 AM »
<<Lets suppose that angry Texans were fireing mildly deadly missles into Mexico, would it be innapropriate for the state or Federal government of Texas or the US to stop them?>>

Sure, and if they didn't, then I'm sure you'd have no problems with the Mexican Army flooding over the border to take care of that problem themselves, would you?  And killing hundreds of American civilians in the process, that would be OK too, right?


Well I wouldn't like it , that would be war.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 10:35:26 AM »
You wouldn't like it, that would be war.

Gaza is the war of the rich and well-armed against the impoverished and unarmed.  As weapons of war, the rockets of Gaza are pathetic.  The Israelis kill, in targeted assassinations alone, more than all the victims of all the rockets ever fired from Gaza.  Add in the hundreds of unarmed civilians killed in the last Israeli invasion, as "punishment" for the rockets and you begin to see the enormity of Israel's crimes.  Which the world stands by and watches.  Only Iran is willing to try and redress the situation.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2010, 11:00:41 AM »
Lift the most lethal embargo first, stop the greater suffering.  The Cubans can take your embargo, and get by in spite of it.  They're Communists.

The Gaza embargo is not a US embargo, the Cuban Embargo is.


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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2010, 02:45:27 PM »
Funny how the Gaza embargo is not a U.S. embargo, but how Obama could stop it with one phone call, if the will existed in the U.S. to stop it.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 06:46:21 PM »
Funny how the Gaza embargo is not a U.S. embargo, but how Obama could stop it with one phone call, if the will existed in the U.S. to stop it.

Someone's even more delusional than the norm, if he thinks our President can dictate what another country can and can't do in defending themselves, especially by way of 1 phone call.      wow      ::)
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2010, 07:42:45 PM »
You ignore the singular fact that Israel is a beggar nation. It receives from the US over $4,000 for every man,. woman and child in Israel. Billions of dollars are donated by US Jews to Israel and Israeli charities every year, every cent of which is tax-deductible from IRS 1040 returns. The President, if he had support, could end this, and Israel's economy would plummet. The US regularly supplies Israel with weapons and spares, and the US government frequently lends Israel money, which Congress then quietly tells Israel that it does not have to repay.

The US has a HUGE amount of clout. Did you notice, by the way, that the last PM of Japan said he would remove US bases from Okinawa, and was forced to resign when he found that this was impossible?

If the President had the support of the American people,he could force that blockade lifted tomorrow.

The US does not have nearly so much power over other nations, but it certainly has a lot over Israel. It just refuses to use it, mostly because AIPAC and other propagandists deprive the President of the support needed to twist Israel's arm as it needs to be twisted.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2010, 07:50:45 PM »
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If the President had the support of the American people,he could force that blockade lifted tomorrow.

Congress appropriates. He would need congressional support to strip aid from Israel, which he doesn't have, which is why Mikey's statement was so delusional.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 08:01:32 PM »
<<Congress appropriates. He would need congressional support to strip aid from Israel, which he doesn't have, which is why Mikey's statement was so delusional. >>

If he's a leader, he takes the case to the people; tells them what he wants and why it's essential to the national interest; names the special interests standing in the way of the policy interests of the nation and tells the people why his administration is proposing to strip the Israelis of all U.S. aid and support.

The failure of the U.S. to act in restraint of Israel is a function of at least two factors:  the failure of leadership on the part of the President, and/or the failure of the Congress (the elected representatives of the people) to act.

The fact of the matter is that the Congress is bought and paid for by special interests, beholden to them and hence CANNOT act against those interests, even when they are diametrically opposed to the national interest.  Also that the President does not wish or cannot even hope to prevail against a Congress that is captive to the special interests.

Were the Congress and/or the President NOT captive to the special interests, one phone call from the President would be all that it would take.

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Re: Pat Buchanan: Lift the Siege
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 09:19:03 PM »
And if pigs could fly...