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kimba1

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #120 on: May 12, 2011, 12:20:04 PM »
A woman has a right to have a child or not to have a child.

I find that legally unfair. If said person were to optain sperm from someone without permission. than that guy is legally responseble for that child.

thiers been a case where the husband banked frozen samples and in a divorce the wife was getton custody of the samples.

I don`t recall the male have any legal protections of anykind except in cases of the donors

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #121 on: May 12, 2011, 01:13:09 PM »
I don't understand what you mean.

If some woman steals a man's sperm, I fail to see how he can be responsible for any child that results. He does not control where the sperm goes.


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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #122 on: May 12, 2011, 02:14:52 PM »
One more time:

A woman has a right to have a child or not to have a child. All the decisions regarding this are up to her, not me and not you and not the government.

A woman has limited rights regarding this.

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #123 on: May 12, 2011, 02:20:22 PM »
the law sides for the well being of the child so whether the man is or is not the biological father he will more likely be financially responsible.

their are cases if the wife is gave birth with a child of another guy and the husband took care of them for a short period .he`s responsible for that kid .

sperm donors are kind of at risk also. you hear of of women who ask only a donation and will sign document saying the biological father is not responsible. such documents does not legally work so if she changes her mind the father will has to pay.

this is stuff I know 5 years ago.maybe things changed finally.

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #124 on: May 12, 2011, 10:31:39 PM »
One more time:

A woman has a right to have a child or not to have a child. All the decisions regarding this are up to her, not me and not you and not the government.

You keep stopping short of explaining anything.

I would agree that a womans right to seek or avoid becomeing a mother is absolute and this right shouldn't be infringed except for serious reason and not without appropriate due process, if a woman chooses to avoid pregnancy that is entirely her right.

At no point does a man or a woman gain the right to kill another person without consideration of reason nor any due process at all.

Why is a baby a baby now when it was nothing ten minutes earlyer?

It is as if you had a section walled off and posted , >no logic allowed past this point<

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2011, 01:09:33 AM »
I would say that having a child is simply not up to anyone other than the woman, with perhaps her doctor's advice.

That seems perfectly logical to me. If it is not logical to you, then we will disagree forever.
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #126 on: May 13, 2011, 10:36:22 AM »
Rand Paul is an unspeakable turd.

People have a right to an education, public libraries and potable water, but that does not imply that anyone beats down the teacher's door, the librarian's door or the water purification guy's doors to demand it.

The people had to be nuts to elect this cryptofascist.
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #127 on: May 14, 2011, 08:08:28 PM »
I would say that having a child is simply not up to anyone other than the woman, with perhaps her doctor's advice.

That seems perfectly logical to me. If it is not logical to you, then we will disagree forever.

When a woman has a child , is she priviliged to kill her?

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2011, 12:50:42 PM »
BEFORE a woman has a child, she has the right to decide whether she shall NOT have that child.
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2011, 05:18:06 PM »
BEFORE a woman has a child, she has the right to decide whether she shall NOT have that child.

Agreed- no woman ever should be forced into pregnancy.
That is almost as bad as kidnapping or slavery.

But killing a child also shouldn't happen.
When a woman is with child the child is dependant not pre-existant.

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2011, 06:50:24 PM »
But killing a child also shouldn't happen.
When a woman is with child the child is dependant not pre-existant.

Fetus removal is not child killing. It is child prevention.

It is her call, not mine and not yours.
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #131 on: May 15, 2011, 07:35:42 PM »
At least not in the 1st 21weeks, per the law
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #132 on: May 16, 2011, 04:23:18 AM »
But killing a child also shouldn't happen.
When a woman is with child the child is dependant not pre-existant.

Fetus removal is not child killing. It is child prevention.

It is her call, not mine and not yours.

  How is killing a child," child prevention"?

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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #133 on: May 16, 2011, 11:22:35 AM »
How is it NOT "child prevention".

But we are not talking abut killing children, we are discussing fetus removal, with the same result.
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Re: Oil depletion allowance
« Reply #134 on: May 16, 2011, 01:32:02 PM »
hmm

is it murder if the husband is constantly yelling at his wife and she got a miscarriage?