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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on May 15, 2011, 12:03:02 AM
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One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300+ million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
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One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300+ million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
Oh I think the circle is quite larger and dominoes put into play 100's of years ago are reverberating today.
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Oh I think the circle is quite larger and dominoes put into play 100's of years ago are reverberating today.
I'm sure you are correct in that assumption == Please enlighten me on the details.
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Take immigration
How old is the 14th amendment? What was it's intent? What is is used for now?
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How old is the banking system? What role does, should, did, the Fed play? How old is greed? Will Brady win another SB? Etc., etc., etc.
BSB
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How old is the banking system? What role does, should, did, the Fed play? How old is greed? Will Brady win another SB? Etc., etc., etc.
BSB
The fed came about around the same time as the income tax and the direct election of senators.
Progress
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Take immigration
How old is the 14th amendment? What was it's intent? What is is used for now?
That's a relief, I imagined you might be referring to Freemasonry.
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Most of these guys are elected by people who they have persueded, maybe we should have more sales resistance.
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Most of these guys are elected by people who they have persueded, maybe we should have more sales resistance.
slick sales people are hard to say no too, at least for the suckers out there. And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...
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And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...
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I imagine that you are thinking of one being born every minute.
That is attributed to P.T. Barnum, but he may never have said it.
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And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...
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I imagine that you are thinking of one being born every minute.
That is attributed to P.T. Barnum, but he may never have said it.
I didn't say he made it up I said he said it.
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W.C. Field's most famous statement about suckers was "Never give a sucker an even break."
As for the other statement, Wikipedia has this to say:
When Barnum's biographer tried to track down when Barnum had uttered this phrase, all of Barnum's friends and acquaintances told him it was out of character. Barnum's credo was more along the lines of "there's a customer born every minute" — he wanted to find ways to draw new customers in all the time because competition was fierce and people could become bored easily.[citation needed]
Some sources claim the quote is most likely from famous con-man Joseph ("Paper Collar Joe") Bessimer,[1] and other sources say it was actually uttered by David Hannum, spoken in reference to Barnum's part in the Cardiff Giant hoax. Hannum, who was exhibiting the "original" giant and had unsuccessfully sued Barnum for exhibiting a copy and claiming it was the original, was referring to the crowds continuing to pay to see Barnum's exhibit even after both it and the original had been proven to be fakes.
In turn, Barnum's fellow circus owner and arch-rival Adam Forepaugh attributed the quote to Barnum in a newspaper interview in an attempt to discredit him. However, Barnum never denied making the quote. It is said that he thanked Forepaugh for the free publicity he had given him.[citation needed]
Another source credits late 1860s Chicago "bounty broker, saloon and gambling-house keeper, eminent politician, and dispenser of cheating privileges..." Michael Cassius McDonald as the originator of the aphorism. According to the book Gem of the Prairie: Chicago Underworld (1940) by Herbert Asbury, when McDonald was equipping his gambling house known as The Store (at Clark and Monroe Streets in Chicago) his partner Harry Lawrence expressed concern over the large number of roulette wheels and faro tables being installed and their ability to get enough players to play the games. McDonald then allegedly said, "Don't worry about that, there's a sucker born every minute."[citation needed]
The phrase is the title of the opening song in the Broadway musical Barnum, about P.T. Barnum's life.
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The earliest appearance of the phrase in print is in the 1885 biography of confidence man Hungry Joe, The Life of Hungry Joe, King of the Bunco Men.[2][3] Another early appearance is in Opie Read's 1898 novel A Yankee from the West.[4]
According to David W. Maurer, writing in The Big Con (1940),[5] there was a similar saying amongst con men: "There's a mark born every minute, and one to trim 'em and one to knock 'em". Here 'trim' means to rip off, and 'knock' means to persuade away from a scam. The meaning is that there is no shortage of new victims, nor of con men, nor of honest men.
In the John Dos Passos novel The 42nd Parallel, the quotation is attributed to Mark Twain.
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con men
it`s amazing how powerful they become today and still not noticable. ex. bernie madoff- to the average citizen the word ponzi scheme is unknown and still a potential mark.
some folks in nigeria had a good income from the U.S.
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Every once in a while some con man gets away with it. There are actually people who have made money in a Ponzi scheme or even AmWay and Herbalife.
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herbalife!
that brings back memories. remember that some of that stuff was actually making people sick
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latest scam
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110516/us_nm/us_teachers_scam_texas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110516/us_nm/us_teachers_scam_texas)
the best thing about a scam is people tend to let these folks buy into these scam believing these loses don`t effect them. so really scams are encouraged in america. the expression "they should know better" has been quite costly in this country.
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The company says those who invest $21,000 will see returns of at least $5,000 per month and those who invest $45,000 will get at least $15,000 a month, the order says.
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Anyone who believes that this is true has to be gullible indeed.
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actually I went through some pretty strong sales people(timeshares) and I can`t say everyone will be immune like me.I use to hangout with grifters and it`s quite easy to trick people. so it`s not surprising people will fall for it.
I won`t say i can`t be tricked,but I`mn alot harder mark than others.
P.S. if you can handle alot of high pressure sales talk than you can get a ton of free stuff from timeshares. i got a free messauge and spa , dinner. I would of gotten a show but those sales was wearing on me bad.