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Kramer

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Something to think about
« on: May 15, 2011, 12:03:02 AM »
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300+ million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 12:11:39 AM »
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300+ million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

Oh I think the circle is quite larger and dominoes put into play 100's of years ago are reverberating today.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2011, 12:18:07 AM »
Oh I think the circle is quite larger and dominoes put into play 100's of years ago are reverberating today.

I'm sure you are correct in that assumption == Please enlighten me on the details.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2011, 12:26:10 AM »
Take immigration

How old is the 14th amendment? What was it's intent? What is is used for now?

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 12:44:46 AM »
How old is the banking system? What role does, should, did, the Fed play? How old is greed? Will Brady win another SB? Etc., etc., etc.


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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 01:01:13 AM »
How old is the banking system? What role does, should, did, the Fed play? How old is greed? Will Brady win another SB? Etc., etc., etc.


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The fed came about around the same time as the income tax and the direct election of senators.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 10:58:00 AM »
Take immigration

How old is the 14th amendment? What was it's intent? What is is used for now?

That's a relief, I imagined you might be referring to Freemasonry.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 05:48:36 PM »
   
   Most of these guys are elected by people who they have persueded, maybe we should have more sales resistance.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 05:52:55 PM »
   
   Most of these guys are elected by people who they have persueded, maybe we should have more sales resistance.

slick sales people are hard to say no too, at least for the suckers out there. And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 06:48:12 PM »
And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...

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I imagine that you are thinking of one being born every minute.

That is attributed to P.T. Barnum, but he may never have said it.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 07:11:13 PM »
And you know what WC Fields says about suckers...

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I imagine that you are thinking of one being born every minute.

That is attributed to P.T. Barnum, but he may never have said it.

I didn't say he made it up I said he said it.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 11:33:07 AM »
W.C. Field's most famous statement about suckers was "Never give a sucker an even break."

As for the other statement, Wikipedia has this to say:

When Barnum's biographer tried to track down when Barnum had uttered this phrase, all of Barnum's friends and acquaintances told him it was out of character. Barnum's credo was more along the lines of "there's a customer born every minute" — he wanted to find ways to draw new customers in all the time because competition was fierce and people could become bored easily.[citation needed]

Some sources claim the quote is most likely from famous con-man Joseph ("Paper Collar Joe") Bessimer,[1] and other sources say it was actually uttered by David Hannum, spoken in reference to Barnum's part in the Cardiff Giant hoax. Hannum, who was exhibiting the "original" giant and had unsuccessfully sued Barnum for exhibiting a copy and claiming it was the original, was referring to the crowds continuing to pay to see Barnum's exhibit even after both it and the original had been proven to be fakes.

In turn, Barnum's fellow circus owner and arch-rival Adam Forepaugh attributed the quote to Barnum in a newspaper interview in an attempt to discredit him. However, Barnum never denied making the quote. It is said that he thanked Forepaugh for the free publicity he had given him.[citation needed]

Another source credits late 1860s Chicago "bounty broker, saloon and gambling-house keeper, eminent politician, and dispenser of cheating privileges..." Michael Cassius McDonald as the originator of the aphorism. According to the book Gem of the Prairie: Chicago Underworld (1940) by Herbert Asbury, when McDonald was equipping his gambling house known as The Store (at Clark and Monroe Streets in Chicago) his partner Harry Lawrence expressed concern over the large number of roulette wheels and faro tables being installed and their ability to get enough players to play the games. McDonald then allegedly said, "Don't worry about that, there's a sucker born every minute."[citation needed]

The phrase is the title of the opening song in the Broadway musical Barnum, about P.T. Barnum's life.
[edit] History

The earliest appearance of the phrase in print is in the 1885 biography of confidence man Hungry Joe, The Life of Hungry Joe, King of the Bunco Men.[2][3] Another early appearance is in Opie Read's 1898 novel A Yankee from the West.[4]

According to David W. Maurer, writing in The Big Con (1940),[5] there was a similar saying amongst con men: "There's a mark born every minute, and one to trim 'em and one to knock 'em". Here 'trim' means to rip off, and 'knock' means to persuade away from a scam. The meaning is that there is no shortage of new victims, nor of con men, nor of honest men.

In the John Dos Passos novel The 42nd Parallel, the quotation is attributed to Mark Twain.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 01:28:07 PM »
con men

it`s amazing how powerful they become today and still not noticable. ex. bernie madoff- to the average citizen the word ponzi scheme is unknown and still a potential mark.

some folks in nigeria had a good income from the U.S.


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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 01:32:22 PM »
Every once in a while some con man gets away with it. There are actually people who have made money in a Ponzi scheme or even AmWay and Herbalife.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 02:18:34 PM »
herbalife!

that brings back memories. remember that some of that stuff was actually making people sick