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sirs

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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2011, 02:02:04 PM »
Au contraire: I have the absolute power to ignore Krauthammer forever.

That was never at issue.......Krauthammer is a fool and should be ignored.....were your words  Notice that has nothing to do with what you can do, but dovetails nicely with your all too frequent references to a whole host of folks who should be ignored, saloon patrons included.  As I said, good thing you have no power to enforce such a policy
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2011, 02:36:20 PM »
By "should be ignored" I certainly did not mean that he should be censored. It is like saying "tobacco should not be smoked", or "pants with broken zippers should not be worn". Should does not mean "be made illegal".
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2011, 03:02:33 PM »
But if you had the power, one can only imagine how many folks you'd deem needed to be ignored.  And that was the point, not the irrelevancy of what you can do personally
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2011, 03:29:57 PM »
It's amazing how many folks Xo believes should be ignored,
be it politicians, pundits, or even patrons of our saloon. 

But have you noticed everyone he wants silenced are conservatives?
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2011, 03:51:05 PM »
"Conservatives" are, by and large dolts, crackpots and dittoheads. They are free to natter on all they wish. But those who listen to them and take them seriously would be better of if they ignored them.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2011, 04:17:02 PM »
So, let's turn that around for more accuracy......"Hard core Liberals" are, by and large dolts, crackpots and dittoheads. They are free to natter on all they wish. But those who listen to them and take them seriously would be better of if they ignored them.

There....much better, and far more accurate      8)
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2011, 04:19:09 PM »
It's amazing how many folks Xo believes should be ignored,
be it politicians, pundits, or even patrons of our saloon. 

But have you noticed everyone he wants silenced are conservatives?

Yep....which is why its a good thing we don't live in such a fascist/socialist state, where only that which is deemed appropriate, by those who just "know better" than the rest of us, is "allowed" to be heard
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2011, 04:28:09 PM »
Where do you get that XO wanted anyone silenced?

Could someone post a link to where he used those words? In my book ignored does not equal silenced.


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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »
SHOULD indicates desired behavior. Krauthammer is a predictable rightwing clown. I occasionally read his column when it appears in the Miami Herald once in a while, and I find his opinions to be batty and his arguments to be feeble. So I do not heed his opinions, and just as I never leave the house without my pants, because I perceive that pants wearing is something I SHOULD do, I do not take Krauthammer seriously. He cam hammer all the kraut he wishes, and I shall ignore it all, because I SHOULD.
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2011, 05:15:00 PM »
Where do you get that XO wanted anyone silenced?
Could someone post a link to where he used those words?
In my book ignored does not equal silenced.

merry christmas mr literal
ignored...silenced...whatever Big Bad T
hell in my opinion he'd "look the other way" if conservatives were lined to a firing squad

oh by the way...if a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there to hear it fall....is it's fall silenced?
or if everybody puts a poster on an "ignore" feature is that poster silenced?
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2011, 06:22:47 PM »
Where do you get that XO wanted anyone silenced?  Could someone post a link to where he used those words? In my book ignored does not equal silenced.

In my book the notion of "should", speaks as to intent, since no one is arguing he can't ignore it himself.  And the issue I brought about, is that if the hard core left had the socialist/fascist powers it strives for, such power to dictate who should be ignored, would likely become law.  NOT that Xo has come out to claim how Conservatives are to be made silent. 

Nice reading into something that was never there though.  Why am I not surprised

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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2011, 07:11:22 PM »
ignored is to silenced as wounded is to shot dead.

It goes to accuracy. It goes to speaking the truth versus misrepresenting one's remarks.

And in the end it reflects on your own credibility. If that is important to you.


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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2011, 08:25:08 PM »
And should is to should

What's important to me, and the "credible" portion, is what I've said, and not what someone tries to read in to it, something that isn't.  I'll focus on the former, regardless of your efforts to focus on the latter
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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2011, 08:31:24 PM »
Nice strawmen. But my question was related to whether XO had used the term silenced as CU stated. Not sure why you are inserting yourself into the conversation.

Do you believe ignore and silence are synonymous?

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Re: Assessing the Damage
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2011, 09:51:25 PM »
Of course I don't.  Irrelvent though, since that was never the main term to focus on.  It was the word "should".  But I understand the need to focus on something other.  When trying to concoct a strawman, best start with something that's not the issue, nor the point to begin with.  Easier then to then paint a position, that never was.  Cudos on the effort
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