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SOTU
« on: January 29, 2008, 10:20:43 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 11:19:14 AM »
If Bush resigned today, this is what his speech would be.....

Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans." Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible has happened, and that you're really not fellow Americans any longer.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. And while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.

Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and beach front property than your economic security.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq 's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so they could be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty.

Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named ' Clinton ' established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you?

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to out spend and out-tech them.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over the globe.

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.'

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a few years, tops.

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy. Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing.

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching.

I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.

So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall.

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.

So that's it. God bless what's left of America .
Some of you know what I mean.
The rest of you, kiss off.



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Re: SOTU
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 11:32:37 AM »
Damn, I'd love to hear that speech right now, today. Let's get that piece of crap out of the White House as soon as possible.
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Re: SOTU
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 11:40:06 AM »
Yea, my post was a joke, too
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Re: SOTU
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 11:53:39 AM »
Yea, my post was a joke, too

Sirs,

Don't you think that the war was a mistake? I know you don't but in all honesty, don't you have any doubts at all, hon? I support your stance, and I am more or less playing devil's advocate when I complain about the war in Iraq, but I do wonder if it was a mistake to go in to a major country, when Afghanistan based Taliban/Al Queda terroritsts were the true culprit back in Sept. 2001. Why would a president take on so darn much? The one thing that creates doubt in my mind, as of late, are those success statements that he made back then...declaring victory.

I have to say that he probably had no idea what he was getting into back then...and THAT bothers me, Sirs.


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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 12:02:39 PM »
Good speech.  I think it translates something like this:

1.  If you don't support me, you're traitors.
2.  Take my word for it, I'm clean as a whistle.  So's Cheney.   Honest.  Trust me.
3.  Personal bankruptcy filings jumped up 40% last year and foreclosures are going through the roof, but the economy's just fine. Trust me.  Honest.  Would I lie to you?
4.  I didn't lie about Iraq because . . . I wasn't stupid enough to enlist the aid of hundreds of Americans to plant fake evidence after the fact and expose myself to their blackmail and whistle-blowing.  The first lie got the job done and you can't prove a God-damn thing, nyaaah, nyaaah, nyaaaah, treasonous liberal ass-holes.
5.  America is in grave danger from a few ragged bands of fanatical terrorists who were on the verge of destroying our whole country by hijacking airplanes before I stepped in to save you all, by invading Iraq and Afghanistan (and, oh yeah, also by tightening airport security like I should have done in the first 8 months of my admnistration.)
6.  High oil prices are the fault of morons who refuse to despoil the great natural parks of this country so that other morons can fill their SUV's and keep the profits flowing to our great American petroleum companies.
7.  None of you idiots understand that as McCain says, it's WORTH IT even if Amerikkkan troops have to stay in Iraq for 100 years.
8.  Next time a natural disaster strikes one of our major cities, don't expect the government to help - - we long ago stopped maintaining the infrastructure, and we sure as hell ain't gonna waste our precious fuel resources hauling YOUR sorry asses out of danger  - - just surrender to Mother Nature, grab what you can and head for the hills.  Morons.
9.  The New York Times and the Democrats are traitors.  Did I tell you that already?
10.  I'm going back to my ranch in Crawford.  I've got an energy-efficient house there.  My daddy's money built it.  You're a moron.
11.  The traitor Pelosi is taking over.  The country is doomed.  God bless my supporters.  Fuck the other 99.5 % of you.

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Re: SOTU
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 01:19:41 PM »
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Yea, my post was a joke, too

Sure was. Bush wouldn't willingly resign, so right at the start it's a laffer. And the rest is bullshit anyway.
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Re: SOTU
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 01:23:36 PM »
Let's just see how much of this is garbage.

If Bush resigned today, this is what his speech would be.....

Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans." Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible has happened, and that you're really not fellow Americans any longer. OK, this is just pure crying.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office. Again, crying.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. And George W Bush does!!!!!...LOLOLOLOL Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. Let's not forget record numbers of foreclosures AND bankruptcies...oops, better not throw that statistic in there. And while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. Yet, African-American unemployment and poverty is still abysmal. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in. Better get out the violins for this one...

Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these markets. Has anyone seen the market lately? It hasn't come close to keeping up with inflation. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and beach front property than your economic security. Ah, blame it on the environmentalists...LOL. Actually gas prices are higher here because of the very weak dollar, which has been policy of crybaby's administration.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq 's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so they could be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty. What threats? Come on, start naming them and give some statistics to back it up! Let's have some real data instead of bogeyman anectdotes. International terrorism statistics don't show it as much of a "real threat."

Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named ' Clinton ' established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you? Ah...I fucked up, but I blame everyone else but me. Nice. A fine example of personal responsibility.

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to out spend and out-tech them. Don't forget the countries we fucked over and the hundreds of thousands, even millions who were slaughtered.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over the globe. Everone must live in constant terrified FEAR!!!

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.' Oh dear, someone get some tissue for the dubster and his disciples.

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a few years, tops. Or never have been fought!

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy. Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing. Wow. So now free journalism and the opposition party are TRAITORS and active enemy combatants! AWESOME!

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol. LOLOL George is making fun of other people's intelligence...I like this.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching. Yet, Bush has been all about the government being there to save the poor scared American from the evil outside world.

I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads. Technically money is printed at the US mint, I'm just saying...

So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall. Maybe we'd be lucky enough to have a time machine invented so we could undo your sorry ass ever inflicting its pain on this nation. And the dying thing...the best idea you've had in , well...ever!

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008. You had me at Cheney's quitting... :-*

So that's it. God bless what's left of America after I've destroyed it.
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
They're only dropping peppermints and daisy-chains
   So stuff my nose with garlic
   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.

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Re: SOTU
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 01:32:20 PM »
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I do wonder if it was a mistake to go in to a major country, when Afghanistan based Taliban/Al Queda terroritsts were the true culprit back in Sept. 2001.

The lightbulbs have slowly been coming on all across America...

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I have to say that he probably had no idea what he was getting into back then...and THAT bothers me, Sirs.


He didn't...it should.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 02:35:32 PM »
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I do wonder if it was a mistake to go in to a major country, when Afghanistan based Taliban/Al Queda terroritsts were the true culprit back in Sept. 2001.

The lightbulbs have slowly been coming on all across America...

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I have to say that he probably had no idea what he was getting into back then...and THAT bothers me, Sirs.


He didn't...it should.

It bothers me at this time--4 year later,  but what can we do about it all.....it's too late.
Now, we must slow the tank down? Get out of town?
what?
YOu know they hold educators to a standard......we are to provide children strategies to grasp concepts, idea and knowledge.  Where were the "best practices"  strategies for entering into this war? They failed miserably on that front, imo. Bush's cohorts did not have the first idea of how to fight a war in the middle east. They fail.

If Bush were help accountable for such lack of provisions....he would be left behind and booted without pay.

I supported the effort to fight back a few years ago. I supported the effort to rid the middle east of tyrants who kill women and children. I supported the change in the way we take care of our own nation in terms of security......but the war in Iraq seems to only have deeped wounds. Osama is still on the loose. Yes, we have had the luck to counter the terrorism in this country, unllike Spain, England and other places around the world since 9-11....but I fear that soldiers have died for a dream that Bush/Cheney held dear to their hearts---the fight.

I support the ideas that bring peace in the world. I support war in the case of fighting back, but where are we headed now?

Deep dept. That's what scares me the most. The cost of all of this has to be outrageous.

We need to reorganize in this nation of ours on many levels.

BT, you say have patience, but in all honesty, patience doesn't pay the bills, unless you have a great idea how we can get out of such a war dept.

« Last Edit: January 29, 2008, 02:40:01 PM by Cynthia »

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Re: SOTU
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 02:54:51 PM »
Yea, my post was a joke, too

Sirs, Don't you think that the war was a mistake? I know you don't but in all honesty, don't you have any doubts at all, hon?

I'll be bluntly honest here, Cynthia.....and have made this answer many other a time.  1st off, I don't support that Bush is evil, Hitler reborn.  that immediately takes off most of the unsubstantiated garbage the left tries to lay claim to, as to why Bush has done what he's done, in regards to iraq, and everything else for that matter.

Secondly, given the intel Bush had, and following the events of 911, it would have been grossly irresponsible for Bush NOT to have gone into both Afghanistan & Iraq, given their connections to Islamic terrorists.  He is charged to protect this nation....NOT to placate illegal immigrants or push Universal Health Care

Thirdly, it would have been morally irresponsible not to have remained in Iraq, following the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED scenario of taking out Saddam, leaving a virtually completely undefended Iraqi populace without a functional government or defendability at the salivating Islamic Militants who would have swarmed over the area like locusts

Have mistakes been made in this war??, of course.  Show me a war that ran as perfectly as planners predicted.  I'm not even gonna detail the amount of lives lost in 1 day during actions in WWII that didn't go as planned. 

Point being is this.....do you believe Bush is acting sincerely, doing what he thinks is best for the nation, with the occasional mistakes in either judgement and/or basing decisions on flawed intel....or do you think Bush is an evil Fascist wannabe dictator, brilliant enough to fool everyone into going along with the WMD facade but too dumb not to be able to put his own guy in charge of Iraq or secure the oil wells for AmeriKKKa?

I'm going with the former, since there's not a shred of evidence, or logic, to support the latter.  In fact, 1 has to be wholly inconsistent to support the asanine notion of how Bush could fool so many, yet too dumb to secure Iraqi's oil, or plant some WMD and say "look, see, here they all are?"


I have to say that he probably had no idea what he was getting into back then...and THAT bothers me, Sirs.

I disagree to a point, since he made it clear from the outset, that this post-Saddam war could take quite a while.  But yes, he probably wasn't prepared for the veracity of the insurgency, and how hard militant Islam would fight to keep the area as unstable as possible.  But the decisions of going in, don't bother me at all.  It made perfect sense, given the intel and events of 911
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Re: SOTU
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 03:08:48 PM »
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patience doesn't pay the bills


what bills aren't being paid?

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 03:12:20 PM »
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patience doesn't pay the bills


what bills aren't being paid?


The amount that we are in dept for this war, BT. Perhaps we paid that dept....but how?

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Re: SOTU
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 03:15:51 PM »
like everything else, we financed it.


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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 03:26:50 PM »
We financed it? So, no dept now or in the future?
God, we must be so rich.