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Hawaii state Sen. Will Espero

Hawaii state Sen. Will Espero, a Democrat, has suggested that legislation could be adopted to release Obama's birth records and satisfy critics.

While Espero said he believes Obama was born in Hawaii, he explained, "My decision to file the legislation was primarily a result of the fuss over President Obama's birth records and the lingering questions," Espero said.

Oklahoma state Rep. Mike Ritze

Oklahoma state Rep. Mike Ritze sponsored a proposal to demand eligibility documentation from candidates for political office, including the president. Ritze, who says he regularly gets questions from his constituents about Obama's eligibility, said an "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" on the issues of candidate qualifications and eligibility.

U.S. Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.

In March 2009, Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., proposed H.R. 1503, known as the Presidential Eligibility Act. It is still pending in a House committee and has nearly a dozen co-sponsors, including Reps. Dan Burton, R-Ind.; Ted Poe, R-Texas; Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.; John Campbell, R-Calif.; John R. Carter, R-Texas; John Culberson, R-Texas; Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.; and Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas; Trent Franks, R-Ariz.; Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; and Kenny Marchant, R-Texas.

The measure seeks to "amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate … to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."

Arizona state Sen. Sylvia Allen

Arizona state Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the controversy over Obama and his birth certificate has raised questions.

"It just makes sense and will stop any controversy in the future to just show you are a natural born citizen," she told the Arizona Capitol Times.

Arizona state Rep. Judy Burges

Arizona state Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, told WND she has been getting questions from other states about H2442, a proposal she sponsored to require future presidential candidates to reveal show they are qualified under the U.S. Constitution's demand for a "natural born citizen." The bill is co-sponsored by some three dozen lawmakers who also want state officials to independently verify the accuracy of documentation.

U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga.

Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga., sent a Dec. 10 letter to the White House formally requesting that President Obama address questions about his place of birth – and thus, whether he is qualified to be president. Deal, who is running for governor, said several months ago he would ask Obama to prove his eligibility.

"I have looked at the documentation that is publicly available, and it leaves many things to be desired," Deal said in November.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

Even Sarah Palin, former vice-presidential candidate and best-selling author, affirmed that questions about Barack Obama's eligibility for office are legitimate.

"I think it's a fair question, just like I think past association and past voting records – all of that is fair game," Palin said. "The McCain-Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area."

Former House majority leader Tom DeLay

In October, former House majority leader Tom DeLay offered his views on Obama's birth, saying, "Why wouldn't the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate? You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball. It's a question that should be answered. It's in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen of the United States to be president."

U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

Asked whether he believes Obama is eligible to be president, U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said, "What I don't know is why the president cannot produce a birth certificate. I don't know anyone else who can't produce one. I think that's a legitimate question."

U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz.

U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., said he believes Obama was born in the U.S., but he also said he thinks the president is trying to hide something:

"I believe he's a natural born citizen of the United States. Therefore, even if he acts un-American and seems to go against American interests, he's still an American-born citizen," he said. "All that being said, probably Barack Obama could solve this problem and make the birthers back off by simply showing ... his long form birth certificate."

Because that isn't happening, "There's some other issue there."

"I don't know what it is that he doesn't want people to see the birth certificate. I don't think it has to do with his natural-born citizenship," Franks continued. "He's spent an awful lot of money to keep people from seeing the birth certificate. ... I think it has to do with something else."

Feminist icon Camille Paglia

Even feminist icon Camille Paglia, a Salon.com columnist who earlier wrote about the ambiguities of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, told a National Public Radio audience that those who have questions about his eligibility actually have a point. "Yes, there were ambiguities about Obama's birth certificate that have never been satisfactorily resolved. And the embargo on Obama's educational records remains troubling," she wrote.

New Hampshire State Rep. Laurence Rappaport

In September, New Hampshire State Rep. Laurence Rappaport, R-Colebrook, said he was tired of telling his constituents that he's not sure of Obama's eligibility to serve as president. He met with New Hampshire's secretary of state, William Gardner, who oversees the state's elections, to demand answers.

"Regardless of where he was born, is he a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution? I don't know the answer to that," Rappaport said. "My understanding is that … a natural born citizen had to be someone with two American parents. If that's true, his father was a Kenyan and therefore a British subject at the time. Then there's the issue: If he was born out of the country, was his mother old enough at the time to confer citizenship?

"I expect somebody to come up with the legal answers to this," Rappaport told WND, "and so far that hasn't happened."

Prominent commentators

A prominent array of commentators, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Mark Levin, Lou Dobbs, Peter Boyles and WND's Chuck Norris and Pat Boone have all said unequivocally and publicly that the Obama eligibility issue is legitimate and worthy.

Longtime New York radio talker Lynn Samuels did the same. "We don't even know where he was born," she said. "I absolutely believe he was not born in this country."

WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Further, others question his citizenship by virtue of his attendance in Indonesian schools during his childhood and question on what passport did he travel to Pakistan three decades ago.

Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers and the appointment – and payments to one of his eligibility lawyers at a cost confirmed to be at least $1.7 million – of numerous lawyers to defend against all requests for his documentation. That's in addition to the work done by U.S. attorneys defending Obama's eligibility, as in this case.

While his supporters cite an online version of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii as his birth verification, critics point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.

The ultimate question unaddressed to date: Is Obama a natural-born citizen, and, if so, why hasn't documentation been provided? And, of course, if he is not, what does it mean to the 2008 election or the U.S. Constitution if it is revealed that there has been a violation?


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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 12:06:05 PM »
I wish somebody could explain this "controversy" to me.  The Constitution does NOT require a birth certificate, only that the President be born in the U.S.A.  Doesn't seem to matter if at the time of that birth the mother was a minor, a U.S. citizen or even a human being, doesn't seem to matter if the father was a citizen of the United States or the Crab Nebula, if the baby was born in the U.S.A. that should fulfill the Constitutional requirement.  The birthplace of the President is a matter of fact and there is NO Constitutional requirement (e.g. for a birth certificate) as to the kind of evidence needed to establish that fact.  Theoretically, it could be established by credible eye-witness evidence in the absence of birth certificates, certified extracts, hospital or other written records.

When Obama was born, Hawaii was a state in the U.S.A.  An extract from the official records of the State of Hawaii which by law has to be accepted as proof of the contents of the state records, unless it can be proven to be a fake (which has not happened) says that the birth of Barack Hussain Obama was duly registered.  THAT is the proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, then a part of the U.S.A.  End of story.

Although it didn't have to, this matter went before the courts.  A woman, Orli something, brought a suit to declare that Obama was not entitled to hold the office of President because he was not born in the U.S.A.  IIRC, that case was thrown out of court.  End of story.

What possible kind of case can there be for the President's not being eligible?

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 12:22:52 PM »
What possible kind of case can there be for the President's not being eligible?

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Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. (Benjamin Franklin)

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 01:20:07 PM »
kramer I agree with what others have said
it's a pipe-dream
but i dont believe Obama was born in the US
it shows how easily the system can be manipulated
but it is a pipe-dream
he'll slide thru his 4 years
we are beating his ass without even using the birthing issue
so I say...unless he really goes off a deep end
lets just keep beating his ass on every issue
and get rid of him that way instead of via the courts


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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 11:55:02 PM »
I agree it's a pipe dream but dreams really can happen

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2010, 08:29:33 PM »
<<I agree it's a pipe dream but dreams really can happen>>

Pipe dreams are dreamed by people who have smoked a pipe of opium.  They've become a metaphor for dreams of a fantastic and otherworldly nature.  Whatever chance there is of those dreams really happening, you have a better chance of being kidnapped by aliens.

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 12:10:35 AM »
See, it's the wrong kind of conspiracy theory for Mike. He prefers one's in which American women and children die. He's safe. He lives a lie. Wouldn't it be great to send people he's been doing business with the sickening fantasies he has about dead children? How he supports the mass murder of women and childrem? A few bcc's to the right people and Mike would have a lot of expalining to do. I mean it might concern people that the FBI has been notified about his activities. He's admitted they've looked into him in the past (I sent that post to the FBI too  ;)). Do the people he associates with want to be known to be friends with such a person?

We just may find out.

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 12:05:36 PM »
The word for you sending a denouncement of MT to the FBI is Chickenshit. You cannot come close to defeating him at any battle of wits, so you resort to vile acts like this.

In the words of Daffy Duck, you are Dithpicable!
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2010, 12:29:39 PM »
So says the statist drone.

You're a fucking idiot. Go play with your Star Trek cards.

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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 01:42:22 PM »
When the bully is trounced and crying his widdle heart out in the playground, he calls for his big brother to come and rescue him, just like the cowardl;y dolt Rich reports MT to the FBI. What a monumental chickenshit you are.
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Re: Growing list of lawmakers, talkers questioning eligibility of president
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 02:41:26 PM »
<chuckle>

What an asshole.

Keep it up drone. You may just impress your butt buddy Mike to visit you in Miami anf fuck you up your tired old liberal ass.