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Change isn't always good. History is full of examples.

This won't be one of this of those occasions.

Nearly 10 million people more wanted Change.

Let's Hope they get it.


   Barack H. Obama   Joseph R. Biden, Jr.   Democratic    69,058,185    52.84%    365    67.8%
   John S. McCain, III   Sarah H. Palin           Republican    59,700,776    45.68%    173    32.2%
   Ralph Nader           Matt Gonzalez           Independent         733,760      0.56%    0      0.0%
   Bob Barr                   Wayne Allyn Root   Libertarian         520,488      0.40%    0      0.0%
Y   Other (+)   -    -                                                                 679,406      0.52%    0      0.0%

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

You'll get back to us when your speculation of your reporter's speculation actually pans out with a little evidentiary back-up.  At this point, my speculation has just as much credibility as yours

Your side attitude is so detrimental to your arguing skills.

and.............................?  Says nor implies nothing of any blowing whistles, nor does it refute my speculation either.  In fact, it would demonstrate Obama's willingness to go after corruption, even in his own party, ala Palin, if he were to have. 

Got something a tad more concrete to lay down??

After reading this, I think we may be arguing the same thing.

I was insinuating that Obama is going after corruption even in his own party.  (But, unlike Palin, NOT charging his state with per diems for days spent at home and charging the state for transporting his kids to events they didn't have to attend.)

UPDATE

SPECULATION'S END.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/09/fitz-presser/

Fitzgerald On Blagojevich’s ‘Political Corruption Crime Spree’: It Would ‘Make Lincoln Roll Over In His Grave’»

In a press conference explaining the arrest and the corruption charges filed against Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D-IL), U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald — who successfully prosecuted Scooter Libby — declared the current case as a “new low.” Fitzgerald described the charges as a “political corruption crime spree.”

Noting that Blagojevich has been under investigation for years for pay-to-play corruption charges, Fitzgerald expressed his amazement that the activity would continue. “You might have thought in that environment, pay-to-play would have slowed down. The opposite happened. It sped up,” he said.

The “most cynical behavior” by Blagojevich pertained to his attempt to sell the open Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama, Fitzgerald said:

    The conduct would make Lincoln roll over in his grave. The governor’s own words describing the Senate seat: “It’s a [bleeping] valuable thing. You just don’t give it away for nothing.” Another quote: “I’ve got this thing and it’s [bleeping] golden. I’m just not giving it up for [bleeping] nothing. I’m not going to do it. I can always use it — I can parachute me there.”

Fitzgerald emphasized: “I should make clear that the complaint makes no allegations about the President-elect whatsoever, his conduct.”

In his private conversations, Blagojevich indignantly referred to Barack Obama as a “motherf*cker” and repeatedly cussed him out because Obama refused to engage in the pay-to-play scheme. Blagojevich complained about giving this “motherf*cker [Obama] his senator. F*ck him. For nothing? F*ck him.”

I see it. Don't know how I missed it.

As for going past D or R, we all know corruption goes both ways. However, this one is HUGE. This guy is a major crook and you can't get away with what he's done without help.

There's the question. Who else was involved.

I follow ya.  They're charging him with TRYING to sell the seat so maybe nobody was willing to pay.

Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on December 09, 2008, 11:55:09 AM

Perhaps there are others better qualified, but Palin is not one of them.

Palin is not qualified at all. The main qualification to be a Senator from New York is to live in New York. She does not live there, so is therefore unqualified for the position.

That, I think, is true but I read a blurb yesterday that said that some people were hoping for a Harold Ford Jr appointment to that seat.  I don't know if he is living in NY or not.

And, all he would have to do is buy a house upstate and that would be that.  Palin, I'm sure could at least rent a flat somewhere.