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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on November 20, 2012, 05:15:27 PM

Title: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 20, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/did-anonymous-stop-rove-stealing-elec (http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/did-anonymous-stop-rove-stealing-elec)


Using firewall as a suprepower , swooping in at the eleventh hour and preventing the theft.

Or not.

I don't beleive this happened , but if it is possible, the process needs to be tightened up for everyones sake.

Can anyone see this a a possibly true story?

Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 20, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
It seems likely to me.

Karl Rove does not give a damn for democracy,he will do anything he thinks he can get away with.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 20, 2012, 08:36:18 PM
That gets told on him a lot , sans evidence.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 01:05:40 AM
Rove himself confessed to dirty tricks from the time he got started in politics.

He probably is guilty of far, far more than he has been accused of.

The bit where he claimed that McCain's adopted Black daughter was a love child was a good example of his evil manipulations.

Rove is a vile and disgusting enemy of democracy and belongs in prison.
 
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 01:30:38 PM
Rove himself confessed to dirty tricks from the time he got started in politics.

He probably is guilty of far, far more than he has been accused of.

The bit where he claimed that McCain's adopted Black daughter was a love child was a good example of his evil manipulations.

Rove is a vile and disgusting enemy of democracy and belongs in prison.

That is a good example of the quality of the accusations against him.

It is not true , not even a little bit.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 01:36:26 PM
It is 100% true, a;ll off it.
Rove is scum and deserves prison.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
It is 100% true, a;ll off it.
Rove is scum and deserves prison.

That only tells me that you havn't looked into it.

Give me a few minutes.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
Noway you will convince me that Rove is not scum
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 02:02:55 PM
Noway you will convince me that Rove is not scum


You are totally right I am certain.

Rove is a great guy , and if it gets proven right in frount of you , you are still not going to believe it.

That is OK, getting you to admit anything is just not the point.

As a matter of fact if I manage to somehow kick out all of your props and cut all your support ,your continued levitation will be a treat.


I like this one from Vanity fair, for being typical.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2004/11/mccain200411 (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2004/11/mccain200411)

It directly accuses Carl Rove of arranging a whisper campaign and setting up boilerrooms for push polling, but absolutely fails to make any connection thereof.

Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 02:15:30 PM
     Here is what Rove says about it.  I think this is right , John McCain should have given the people of South Carolina more credit and told the whole truth to them. only a very few would have thought adopting a girl from Bangladesh to be negative in the least.

   This might not have been enough McCain displayed a typical Yankee attitude twards the Confederate battle flag, this probly cost him many thousand votes and gained him nothing.

    There were other problems , but I kinda wish that John McCain had made this whisper campaign into a positive in just the way that Carl explains here, I think it possible and I think it possible that John McCain would have been a better president than GWB.

    We may never know, McCain seems a little old now to run again, but I would definately like another chance to vote for him. He has a certain level of integrety that I like .

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34075.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34075.html)
Quote
Rove said that he had “nothing to do with it.”



The former Republican political operative then said the nasty rumor –which incorrectly identified McCain’s adopted daughter from Bangladesh – actually provided McCain with an “opportunity.”



“I thought John McCain would seize it for what it was, which was an enormous opportunity to give an insight into who he and his wife are because Cindy McCain adopted a child from an orphanage in Bangladesh,” Rove said. “The story of this is an incredible tale of love and compassion. But rather than doing that, John McCain said, ‘I’m a victim,’ and was angry and complained about it and pointed the finger at Bush when he had no evidence whatsoever.”
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 02:24:37 PM
Rove of course denied that he was involved. But this ignores the fact that Rove is a duplicitous, lying SOB. I agree that McCain would probably been a better president than Juniorbush. Who wouldn't? Combined with Cheney, they were the worst possible choice.

McCain did not impress me then, and has since impressed me less since he lost to Obama. It is time for him to retire to one of his seven houses and tell the neighbor kids to keep off his lawn.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
I am not ignoring anything.

I am noticing that everyone who accuses Carl Rove with this particular crime just assumes the reader needs no evidence.

Voilla, they are right!

Certain people will accept anything about Carl Rove requireing only that it be negative.

You had best stop laughing at people who search desprately for evidence for President Obamas Kenyan birth certificate, they have greater rigor than those who accuse Carl Rove of racism.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 02:55:28 PM
It was a stupid ploy to claim that the little girl was McCain's daughter, as she would not have been as dark as she was. Rove saying he didn't do it is hardly an adequate reason to believe him. Rove is a deceitful prick. He brags about being one.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 03:40:29 PM

Carefull
You are on the edge of admitting that the reason that you believe this about this guy is that you want to.
Evidence not required.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 21, 2012, 03:46:34 PM
Yeah, when I have Rove's neck in a noose, you can complain about how unfair I am.

Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 21, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Yeah, when I have Rove's neck in a noose, you can complain about how unfair I am.

You would join a lynch mob?

Yes that is worthy of complaint.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 22, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
The point is that I don't have Rove's foul neck in a noose.

I cannot watch as Rove's cherubic face turns purple and into something resembling Chucky. I don't get to see his eyes bug out and his tongue protrude as he kicks and finally gasps his last.

So you should be happy about that. Rove will live to attempt more vile tricks, and will die a villain.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 22, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
Or a Hero depending on your point of view.

There is a firm connection between that accusation of misengnation and a person who taught at Bob Jones University at the time.

But his sin gets placed on the Rove scapegoat, because a tenuous accusation at Rove is better than a clear and strong one on a minor player.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 22, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
Rove will never be any sane person's hero. Some even consider George Lincoln Rockwell to be a hero.

It still seems like Rove tried to steal the votes in Ohio, but was thwarted.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 22, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
Rove will never be any sane person's hero. Some even consider George Lincoln Rockwell to be a hero.

It still seems like Rove tried to steal the votes in Ohio, but was thwarted.

George Lincoln Rockwell  is easily connected to quotes and writings that prove he had a bad attitude, only the few that share his attitude could lionise him.

Carl Rove is shrewd, but that isn't bad, it is not proven anywhere that he has been breaking the rules.

And I trust him more than Anonymous.

Why should anyone trust anonymous at all?
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 23, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
Scew Karl Rove.He is an enemy of democracy. Screw the horse he rode in on.

I was overjoyed that he sucked sooooo much money out of the ratbag right for his evil American Crossroads and lost so miserably. May God rot them all, and the sooner, the better.
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Plane on November 23, 2012, 08:19:58 PM
When you join Lynch mobs do you favor carrying a torch or a pitchfork?
Title: Re: Trust me, I am Anonymous
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 23, 2012, 10:02:59 PM
If it is for Rove, I think I would opt for the pitchfork.