March on Washington to tell president to quit

[Amianthus]

But the Obama could get a certified copy of his own birth certificate.

For God's sake, he did!

When it's released to the person, it's put on a document titled "Certification of Live Birth" and notarized by the registrar.

You've seen the pictures.

[Christians4LessGvt]

So, now you're saying the Registrar in Hawaii committed
fraud by notarizing a document he knew is false?

No I am saying Obama was not born in the United States
and he will not show his original long form birth certificate
or a certified copy of the long form birth certificate that
displays hospital, doctor info, ect.

[Christians4LessGvt]

For God's sake, he did!

Ami the original 1961 long form birth certificate and/or
a certified copy of the original long form birth certificate
has not been released. You are confusing the original
long form birth certificate with what he has released.

[Amianthus]

No I am saying Obama was not born in the United States and he will not show his original long form birth certificate or a certified copy of the long form birth certificate that displays hospital, doctor info, ect.

First off, hospital, doctor info, etc are not required to prove birth in the US.

Secondly, prove to me that Hawaii will release the document you describe - I require high quality photographs of that type of document, including the notary stamp, released since 2007. (You'll know the release date, it will be on the notarization.)

I'll wait. I'll read this document over here about Hawaii changed their laws years ago and no longer release that info, and now only release the "Certification of Live Birth". But I'll wait for you to prove me wrong.

*whistles*

[sirs]

So, now you're saying the Registrar in Hawaii committed fraud by notarizing a document he knew is false?

No I am saying Obama was not born in the United States and he will not show his original long form birth certificate or a certified copy of the long form birth certificate that displays hospital, doctor info, ect.

He doesn't have to, in order to be declared a Citizen of the U.S., per U.S. Law & the State Dept

Is THAT the law you want to have changed?  That certified copies of birth certificates are no longer acceptable?  it HAS to be the original long form, no if's and's or but's??

There goes my chance to be President.  Bummers

[Amianthus]

Ami the original 1961 long form birth certificate and/or a certified copy of the original long form birth certificate has not been released. You are confusing the original long form birth certificate with what he has released.

Because it's now illegal to do so. Privacy laws have changed a bit in this country over the years. I can't get the document with the attending physician's name at my birth from New Jersey anymore. I still have an old copy, but any new copies I request from New Jersey will NOT include that information.

Besides that, it's pointless. That information is NOT REQUIRED to prove birth in the United States.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Because it's now illegal to do so. Privacy laws have changed a bit in this country over the years. I can't get the document with the attending physician's name at my birth from New Jersey anymore. I still have an old copy, but any new copies I request from New Jersey will NOT include that information.

Yeah sure AMI the President Of The United States could not in any way shape or form request and get a copy of his own original long form birth certificate. Gosh I am sure if there was a constitutiona crisis they couldn't get it! LOL

[sirs]

Not the point now is it

[Christians4LessGvt]

He doesn't have to, in order to be declared a Citizen of the U.S., per U.S. Law & the State Dept

Do you guys think I am denying Obama is the President of the United States?
LOL.....I mean this is quite funny,
Of course he has not had to show his original long form birth certificate....yet.
Of course the State Department shows him to be a citizen.
If it were that easy....would we even be talking about someone that would be living in ILL instead of DC.
HELLO? Thats what this is all about.

[Amianthus]

HELLO? Thats what this is all about.

So, what would you like the requirement CHANGED to, since the current one - which Obama meets - is not sufficient?

[sirs]

My question, as well

[Amianthus]

Yeah sure AMI the President Of The United States could not in any way shape or form request and get a copy of his own original long form birth certificate. Gosh I am sure if there was a constitutiona crisis they couldn't get it! LOL

So, now you're advocating that the President violate federal and state privacy laws just for you?

[Christians4LessGvt]

"So, now you're advocating that the President violate federal and state privacy laws just for you?"

Yeah sure AMI....have Obama call up up and bitch them out!
Obama would scream "I WANT IT NOW"
demonize me....oh baby demonize me!
LOL

No AMI....I think the President of The United States (if it is even needed...and I am not sure it is)
could ask a court to release a certified copy of his original long form birth certificate and they
would not think this was the "end of the world" to release a certified copy of someone's own
long form birth certificate.

[sirs]

What do you want CHANGED, Cu4??  That's where we're at now.  "What would you like the requirement CHANGED to, since the current one - which Obama meets - is not sufficient?"

[Christians4LessGvt]

What do you want CHANGED, Cu4??  That's where we're at now.  "What would you like the requirement CHANGED to, since the current one - which Obama meets - is not sufficient?"

SIRS....I am at work dude.
You try to argue with two people at once on precise details for hours.
I will respond....I think you know me enough...to know that.
But it takes time....because you think or want to move on to a related issue
does not mean I want to yet or have the time to yet