Hartford Convention of 1814

[Xavier_Onassis]

Each and every member of every Tea Party was present when Cheney said that. The debt thing has been growing ever soince the days of Ross Perot, who was also a proto Tea Partier.

But, Cheney is White, so is Perot. The Tea Party is dogwhistle racism. "I want my country back" means "I want another old White guy in charge".

I have heard these schmucks, I have seen their signs, they are followers of Limbaugh and Beck and none too bright. Most are as dim as the unlamented Kramer: stupid screamers who like to annoy anyone with an education.

I do not give one damn about this Santelli creep. The whole movement has been financed by guys like the Kochs and Cato. 

[BT]

Each and every member of every Tea Party was present when Cheney said that.

They may have been alive but they weren't Tea Party when he made the statement?

The Tea Party is dogwhistle racism.

Oh please come up with something better than that. The Tea Party hasn't accused anyone of acting against the best interests of their race, many Democrats have. See Uncle Tom, see not an Authentic Negro ^tm

[Xavier_Onassis]

Nobody knows who is Tea Party and who is not. Other than the leaders of the various groups, there is no actual membership.
All those signs at 'bagger rallies, showing the President as a witch doctor with a bone through his nose, the Obama whiteface joker signs that Kramer was so fond of, all the 'baggers clamoring for the birth certificate, it is all racism, obvious to anyone with a brain.

In other forums each and every person who claims some allegiance to the 'bagger movement also posts welfare queen cram, New Black Panther crap as well.

What difference does it make what I think of these nitwits to you, anyway?

[BT]

Nobody knows who is Tea Party and who is not.

If that is the case why make generalized statements about them.

BTW those signs you saw were not carried by tea party people, they were carried by leftists out to discredit the tea party.

What difference does it make what I think of these nitwits to you, anyway?

None really other than a lie not debunked eventually becomes accepted truth.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yeah, sure. ALL the signs were carried to discredit the 'bagger sockpuppets.

What I mean is that these fools say all sorts of nonsense and when they get called on it, then others say "well, HE is not a REAL Tea Party Patriot. He is not a REAL Tea Party Express member., and since no one is officially a member, no one is.
The Kochs and Cato have zip to do with the Tea Party, they just left several hundred thou laying around where someone found it. Tom DeLay is not a real Tea partier, except when he is.

Kramer sure ate it up, didn't he?

Go elsewhere with that crap. The interviewed these jerks as well, and they were applauded.

[BT]

Yeah, sure. ALL the signs were carried to discredit the 'bagger sockpuppets.

I believe it quite possible that left in their fear of what they can't control would do anything in their power to discredit the movement, up to and including planting agents provocateur among their ranks.

For example:
RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

See anything in there that has been done to the Tea Party ?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not give a crap what has been done to this assemblege of mental defective racists.

I would never vote for them, they are hateful and obsolete, worse even in many ways to the odious Republican Party.

[BT]

I doubt the Tea Party is courting your vote. But your credibility suffers when you make statements about them that simply are not true.

[Plane]

If I think that present Tax policy is a mess and that spending is too high.

I have to be a racist.....?

As I see it , the opposition of the TEA party accuse them of racism because they cannot defend the extremes of Taxation out loud.

[Xavier_Onassis]

They are mostly not about taxes at all.

They hate gays, they are against equal pay for women, they reject any sensible immigration reform, they mostly want an English-only environment, they support wars and more wars.

[Plane]

They are mostly not about taxes at all.

They hate gays,

no

they are against equal pay for women,

no

they reject any sensible immigration reform,

no

, they mostly want an English-only environment,,

no

they support wars and more wars.,

no

So they can name their movement "TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY" rally and talk about taxes all over the nation , talk about the Boston Tea Party (which was about tea tax) and talk talk talk about taxes. This indicates that they are not mostly about taxes.

No.

It indicates thair critics do not want to talk about taxes.

[sirs]

OUCH.....touche', Plane     

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no touché.

I have heard these hicktown yokels speak. I know what they say.

Everybody talks about taxes.

The budget of this country cannot and never will be balanced by tax cuts and budget cuts alone. That is just stupid dreaming.

[BT]

It's hard to overcome prejudice.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is hardly prejudice to point out that the country's budgetary problems can never be solved by eliminating the services of government cutting taxes. Neither will it do any good to constipate the government or abolish the Dept.of Education.