"Who's on 1st?"

[sirs]

Here in the Medical field me and my patients have been saddled with a ridiculously higher level of documentation and regulation requirements, than when I started as a therapist, due to those few that abused the system.  apparently in your tweaked assessment, I blame all my patients.

Those who abused the system didn't create the regulations. So why would they be responsible for the added paperwork burden? or subject to blame?

They're not the "subject of blame"  That's YOUR egregious error.  They're merely members of the same group and victims of the ever worsening regulations and documentation mandates, of those patients and medical professionals that DID abuse the system.

Which is not to say that Muslims are now "victims" either.  Just highlighing how the actions of a few can impact on the whole.  Move the mosque a few blocks, and there is no issue, period

[Christians4LessGvt]

oh come on SIRS you know if thousands upon thousands of Republicans
started targeting and slaughtering thousands of innocent people by flying
planes into buildings, blowing up wedding parties, blowing up children's
schools, beheading journalist, blowing up hotels, blowing up nightclubs,
blowing up trains, blowing up airports, blowing up buses, murdering old and young,
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect and after each rampage the radical Republicans said they
did it because of the Republican Party....now that would not make the Republican
Party look bad....nahhhhhhh not at all.....in fact I am sure there would be no
condemnation of the Republican Party.... because...well after-all.... most
Republicans are peaceful, and hey they could even call themselves
"The Party of Peace" after all the slaughter!

[BT]

They're not the "subject of blame"  That's YOUR egregious error.

Did I say they were? If you read what i wrote, and i am beginning to understand that reading is not your strong suite, you would have seen that i never assigned blame to them for the onerousness regulations placed on your workplace. The regulators would be to blame.

[BT]

oh come on SIRS you know if thousands upon thousands of Republicans
started targeting and slaughtering thousands of innocent people by flying
planes into buildings, blowing up wedding parties, blowing up children's
schools, beheading journalist, blowing up hotels, blowing up nightclubs,
blowing up trains, blowing up airports, blowing up buses, murdering old and young,
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect and after each rampage the radical Republicans said they
did it because of the Republican Party....now that would not make the Republican
Party look bad....nahhhhhhh not at all.....in fact I am sure there would be no
condemnation of the Republican Party.... because...well after-all.... most
Republicans are peaceful, and hey they could even call themselves
"The Party of Peace" after all the slaughter!

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad, the question would be whether the non violent wing of the Republican Party shares the guilt of the Violent wing.

[Christians4LessGvt]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

[Christians4LessGvt]

SIRS...I think this guy states our position pretty well
and he also calls out the "BT's" too!

The enemy within

[BT]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

Under my logic the innocent should not share in the guilt of those who do the deeds.

I don't believe I said anything other than that.

Perhaps you can show me where I did.

[sirs]

They're not the "subject of blame"  That's YOUR egregious error.

Did I say they were?

NO.  That's what you keep claiming, incorrectly, folks like myself and Cu4 are saying/doing/implying....without 1 shred of rhetorical evidence.   Merely a template of a conclusion you've come to, that apparently must be adhered to, despite all rhetorical evidence to the contrary.  That's the egregious error being referenced.

And no, it's not the regulaters, its those that brought about the need for the regulators to do what they felt compelled to do......those that perpetrated the acts are to blame.  For someone so supposedly grounded in indivdiual responsibility for one's own actions, you sure do give wide latitidue to certain constituencies   

[sirs]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

Under my logic the innocent should not share in the guilt of those who do the deeds.

I don't believe I said anything other than that.

How ironic....so has Cu4 and myself.  Have you taken some poll?  Do they "feel guilty"?

[sirs]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

*snicker*.....when David Duke was in the party, remember how the GOP was called the party of the KKK?  But under Bt's parameters, WE, as in you and me, must also be blaming the rest of the GOP, claiming them as racists, that they must share in the guilt.  Quite the "logic", at work

[BT]

They're not the "subject of blame"  That's YOUR egregious error.

Did I say they were?

NO.  That's what you keep claiming, incorrectly, folks like myself and Cu4 are saying/doing/implying....without 1 shred of rhetorical evidence.   Merely a template of a conclusion you've come to, that apparently must be adhered to, despite all rhetorical evidence to the contrary.  That's the egregious error being referenced.

And no, it's not the regulaters, its those that brought about the need for the regulators to do what they felt compelled to do......those that perpetrated the acts are to blame.  For someone so supposedly grounded in indivdiual responsibility for one's own actions, you sure do give wide latitidue to certain constituencies   

Oh so when you said:

Though I do appreciate you highlighting an important point to my position.  Here in the Medical field me and my patients have been saddled with a ridiculously higher level of documentation and regulation requirements, than when I started as a therapist, due to those few that abused the system.  apparently in your tweaked assessment, I blame all my patients.

You weren't claiming that was my actual position, you were claiming that was your perception of my actual position, absent any quotable facts to back up that perception. Again that explains a lot  about your thought process.

[BT]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

*snicker*.....when David Duke was in the party, remember how the GOP was called the party of the KKK?  But under Bt's parameters, WE, as in you and me, must also be blaming the rest of the GOP, claiming them as racists, that they must share in the guilt.  Quite the "logic", at work

Why would you feel guilty. You aren't a Republican.

[sirs]

You weren't claiming that was my actual position, you were claiming that was your perception of my actual position, absent any quotable facts to back up that perception. Again that explains a lot  about your thought process.

Yea, because your quotes of continued implied sharing the guilt & sharing the blame (minus any actual rhetorical evidence, of course), were never actually used by yourself.  It was your......evil twin.  Yea, that has to be it.  Mystery solved

Gotcha

[sirs]

The question is not whether the Republican Party looks bad,

under your logic why would it "look bad"?
under your logic.....it shouldn't "look bad" should it?
if only "a few" of the greater group in fact carried out the violence
why would the Republican Party "look bad" if a bunch of Republicans
started slaughtering hundreds of thousands saying they did it for Republican ideals?

*snicker*.....when David Duke was in the party, remember how the GOP was called the party of the KKK?  But under Bt's parameters, WE, as in you and me, must also be blaming the rest of the GOP, claiming them as racists, that they must share in the guilt.  Quite the "logic", at work

Why would you feel guilty. You aren't a Republican.

But Republicans should, per your conclusions of Cu4 & myself

[BT]

*snicker*.....when David Duke was in the party, remember how the GOP was called the party of the KKK?  But under Bt's parameters, WE, as in you and me, must also be blaming the rest of the GOP, claiming them as racists, that they must share in the guilt.  Quite the "logic", at work

Again you can not read. CU introduced the GOP with the evil segment and the shared guilt. Perhaps you should aim you snicker at him, unless you agree that the innocents should share in the shame of the guilty.