Rumsfeild

[Plane]

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FA50B1B6-6A33-483F-94E9-21BEF46BED57.htm




Well done , enjoy your well deserved retirement , very few Secretarys of Defence have served nearly so long , or so well.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Well done , enjoy your well deserved retirement , very few Secretarys of Defence have served nearly so long , or so well.

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Good riddance, you arrogant, destructive murderous torturing clown.

Poorest defense of the US in generations.

[Plane]

Well done , enjoy your well deserved retirement , very few Secretarys of Defence have served nearly so long , or so well.

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Good riddance, you arrogant, destructive murderous torturing clown.

Poorest defense of the US in generations.

How so?

Which Secretarys do you have in mind haveing done better?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Which Secretarys do you have in mind haveing done better?

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All the ones during whose time in office the Pentagon was not attacked.
All the ones during whose time in office 3,000 civilians were not murdered by a surprise attack.
All the ones during whose time POW's were not murdered and tortured and photographed in humiliation poses and circulated throughout the world.
All the ones during whose time horribly planned unnecessary invasions of a country like Iraq were not carried out poorly.
All those who did not lie about how their efficient "shock and awe" opoerations would be welcomed by the Iraqis and all the operations in Iraq would be over in six months, when in reality they have cost many times more in casualties and money.

I think that perhaps Jefferson Davis' Secretaries of War were less competent than Rummy.

Face it this petulant asshole is a trainwreck, just like Juniorbush. It is hard to imagine when more incompetent, arrogant, lying buffoons have ever been assembled in the vicinity of Washington DC.

To find such an assemblage of arrogant, incompetent, lying buffoons elsewhere in the US, one would have to visit one of our larger prisons.

[Plane]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha


And you can't recall a single one by name?


Hehehe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney



How did you like him?

Did you notice him?





OOOps  Almost Posted Zibnew Bresniqui who was Security Advisor not Sec Def , soorry.

Suffering from the same ignorance I am pointing out

[Plane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Defense

[Plane]

Prior to this, Gates served for 26 years in the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Council, and Under President George H. W. Bush as Director of Central Intelligence. After leaving the CIA, Gates became president of Texas A&M University and was a..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Gates

"Gates also served as a member of the bipartisan commission headed by James A. Baker III, the Iraq Study Group, that has studied the Iraq campaign. "

[Mucho]

Prior to this, Gates served for 26 years in the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Council, and Under President George H. W. Bush as Director of Central Intelligence. After leaving the CIA, Gates became president of Texas A&M University and was a..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Gates

He also helped create Osama http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2989438
which shows why it takes so many Aggies to chance a light bulb or anything else for that matter.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Even Dick Cheney was a better Secretary of Defense than Rumsfeld.

I was judging the competence by which the country was defended. Rumsfeld was by this standard, the very worst of all.

Marilyn Allbright was better, to name one. Melvin Lair was famous for lying, but he didn't start a war or allow an attack in civilians, so he was better.

If you drank a soda that tasted like dogpoop, it would not be necessary to remember the names of Dr. Pepper, Mr Pibb or Dr Brown's Cel-Ray Tonic to explain this.

[Plane]

Even Dick Cheney was a better Secretary of Defense than Rumsfeld.

I was judging the competence by which the country was defended. Rumsfeld was by this standard, the very worst of all.

Marilyn Allbright was better, to name one. Melvin Lair was famous for lying, but he didn't start a war or allow an attack in civilians, so he was better.

If you drank a soda that tasted like dogpoop, it would not be necessary to remember the names of Dr. Pepper, Mr Pibb or Dr Brown's Cel-Ray Tonic to explain this.
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What did Marilin Albright do about the gathering threat of Al Queda?

Wait for it to become "immanent"?

What did any of them do to improve the "intel" comeing out of Iraq?

If we had learned that WMD were absent in 1999 there might have been a diffrent means of dealing with Toothless Saddam.

[Xavier_Onassis]

What did any of them do to improve the "intel" coming out of Iraq?

If we had learned that WMD were absent in 1999 there might have been a diffrent means of dealing with Toothless Saddam.

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It is pretty clear that all the Intel was cherry-picked by Juniorbush and his Neocon henchmen to support an invasion of Iraq, which was planned long before 9-11 made public outrage great enough to spin it into support for the invasion.

Israel was a collaborator in this, because it wanted the US to have a massive military presence in the ME. The Neocons were mostly Zionists: Wolfowitz, Abrams, Perle, Cristal and dozens of flunkies.

It is true that the US needed much better Intel in the region. It still does.

But Albright did not start a war. Albright did not plan an invasion with no exit strategy.
It seems to me that Albright listened to the military, while Juniorbush was given adult supervision in the person of Powell, and ignored him thoroughly.

[Plane]

It is pretty clear that all the Intel was cherry-picked by Juniorbush and his Neocon henchmen to support an invasion of Iraq, which was planned long before 9-11 made public outrage great enough to spin it into support for the invasion.


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I challenge this assertion of yours.

Why should a sceptic share your faith in it?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I challenge this assertion of yours.

Challenge away! Challenge as the mighty  Kong challenged those pesky biplanes!
 Go ahead, take a swing at it! Knock it out of the sky, if you dare!
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Why should a sceptic share your faith in it?

An intelligent skeptic would be, well, intelligent, and could have read between the lines, even as this bogus intel was being cooked.

When things are being cooked, there are those who can smell something going wrong.
Alas, others are not given adequate BS detector sensory devices. Some depend on Rush and Ollie and Sean, who are essentially noseless in detecting the odors emitted by their masters.

[Plane]

I challenge this assertion of yours.

Challenge away! Challenge as the mighty  Kong challenged those pesky biplanes!
 Go ahead, take a swing at it! Knock it out of the sky, if you dare!
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Why should a sceptic share your faith in it?

An intelligent skeptic would be, well, intelligent, and could have read between the lines, even as this bogus intel was being cooked.

When things are being cooked, there are those who can smell something going wrong.
Alas, others are not given adequate BS detector sensory devices. Some depend on Rush and Ollie and Sean, who are essentially noseless in detecting the odors emitted by their masters.

Reading between the lines is unsceptic like.

Foresight is not easy , hindsight is easy.

Let me give you an example , the Social Security system will be radicly changed within ten years.
Mostly negatively.

This is foresight ,you may be amazed when it happens but afterwards you will be able to see which of the signs were clear and outstanding and everyone will be wondering what hid it from us all.