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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on December 25, 2015, 01:51:07 AM

Title: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 25, 2015, 01:51:07 AM
Remember when we did this to the japanese it allow us to have alot of super cheap homes and property for true americans. Notice the repatriation money was not very much. Total win win for america.

Muslims has alot of thriving business so the asset forfeture will be huge.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Plane on December 25, 2015, 10:20:55 AM
  I hope that the government is not thinking this way.

   Most of the people we are talking about here are real Americans , with every qualification.

  In WWII Italian, German and Japanese citizens were under suspicion of disloyalty, mostly just for their ethnicity. So we locked up thousands of them, and probably saved us from two or three spies.


      It shouldn't have happened, and it really should never happen again.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 25, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
That is how Herr Adolph financed the Blitzkrieg, by putting Jews in concentration camps and seizing their money. They had a LOT of money.

But somehow, jailing people on suspicion is really an evil thing to do.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 25, 2015, 01:29:55 PM
But in the name of national security americans has reaped massive financial rewards in houses ,land and property. I think thier not even tax exemtp so when released they owed back taxes for the time they were away. Last i checked they were required to bring some supplies also. The government doesn't cover all for them living accomadations.

Also the byproduct is just like prison zero chance of work afterwards. Today when this topic was brought up some people are still ok with it.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Plane on December 25, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
I don't want to argue the "pro" side on this one.

But I recently read an article about the Spanish inquisition, that author thought that the real point was to confiscate a lot of treasure with which to prosecute the final fight to expel the Moors.

Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 25, 2015, 02:30:48 PM
The Spanish Inquisition was at its peak in after 1500, and the last of the Moors was driven out of Spain in 1493, following the conquest of Granada. The main purpose was to identify and reform or punish crypto-Jews and crypto-Muslims in newly conquered areas.

The Dominicans were mostly quite sincere in their  persecutions. They were not overly concerned with punishing the innocent, as they thought that was good for the soul, anyway, and that God would make up for any injustice after the poor souls were dead. The Spanish Inquisition began in 1478 and was abolished in 1834.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

It was probably not as utterly awful as described, but it certainly was a bad thing.

Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 26, 2015, 03:21:11 PM
Remember when we did this to the japanese it allow us to have alot of super cheap homes and property for true americans. Notice the repatriation money was not very much. Total win win for america.Muslims has alot of thriving business so the asset forfeture will be huge.

ridiculous....and Kimba I am confident you are joking
we do not need to place American Muslims in camps
and we don't need their property or business assets to make America Great Again

we just don't need any huge new Muzzy influx into the US.
as long as the Muzzy population stays tiny in the US
the problems they cause will be manageable
it's been shown around the world in many countries as the Muzzy population increases so do the problems they cause

I am thankful that unlike Europe...we are being invaded by people that are primarily Christian....
and that are for the most part hardworking, peaceful, non-Jihad supporters/sympathizers...
Europe on the other hand is being invaded by people that have no western values and basically a clash of civilizations.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 28, 2015, 01:59:16 PM
of course I was joking but sadly what I pointed out was not made up information. as you know I tend to think in economic terms and moneywise that action was very advantageous to non japanese.

I have no worry to the growth of islam in the U.S. . the damage is just too great from the attack. personally 9-11 was the worst thing for muslims globally. despite how it looks in the media I`m pretty sure muslims in general are having a hard time right now. being a sihk in america is no fun also. I find how asiatic indians are treated very unforgivable and very upsetting its so minorly addressed
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 28, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
I`m pretty sure muslims in general are having a hard time right now. being a sihk in america is no fun also.

US Muslims are treated much better than the harsh treatment of Muslims by the Chinese.
Of course we won't hear much about that from the LameStreamAmericaHatingMedia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5IwwnP5e78
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 28, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
There are several reasons that the media in the US does not report about abuse of Muslims in China.

First, most Americans barely know what a Muslim is. They confuse them with Sikhs regularly.
Second, they are unaware that there are Muslims in China. Ask the next ten peple you see "What is a Uyghur"? You will be lucky to get any answers but "Hunh" and "A WHAT?"
Third, the US media is not in the business of delivering the news (other that the BBC and PBS) They are in the business of delivering eyeballs to viewers of commercials.
It would cost big money to send a reporting team to Western China, and they would probably need two translators: English/Mandarin and Mandarin/Uyghur. They would also have to watch their backs, because China does not like negative news stories. It is a lot cheaper to report how Mrs. Johnson was warned of a kitchen firt by her parakeet.

The BIGGEST failure of the "lamestream media" is that they insist on only giving us local weather, even when it is not exciting. There could be a tornado in Honshu, or a new volcano in Sumatra, or a monsoon in Zamboanga, and those evil lame Commie bastards would never report it.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 28, 2015, 06:30:40 PM
I'm talking globally.  Comparing mistreatment does not excuse mistreatment.  It excuses such behavior

If I recall one of the largest muslim population is in china. Knowinghow folks there think. Not really surprised it happens.  Ex. Fal
Un gong
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 28, 2015, 06:51:51 PM
Comparing mistreatment does not excuse mistreatment.  It excuses such behavior

Agreed, but it is certainly relevant.
And it gives one at least some perspective on how "horrible" it is or isn't here for US Muslims.
If all we read is how terrible Muslims are treated here in the US
and then hear how great China's economic miracle is....
it gives one a false sense of reality....it's basically lying by omission.
The fact is Muslims by in large are treated rather well in the US
and most American Muslims would obviously rather be here than in a Muslim Middle East country.

Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 28, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
The Muslim population of China is about 135 million, or 10% of the total.
India, Indonesia, Bangladesh all have more Muslims.

The reason the press deals with inequities in the USA is that Americans can DO SOMETHING about it. They are powerless to do anything about inequities in China.

I imagine that most Muslim Chinese would rather stay in China than come to the US.

Most people in the world want to stay where they are.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 28, 2015, 11:56:47 PM
I imagine that most Muslim Chinese would rather stay in China than come to the US.

I certainly hope so!
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 29, 2015, 02:32:11 AM
Sigh I've repeatedly brought up non muslims are attacked and noticed how unimportant thus issue is
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 29, 2015, 07:19:40 AM
Most people in the world want to stay where they are.

Note: "Less than most" is still a hell of a lot of people!
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 29, 2015, 08:51:04 AM
That's actually quite bad for America for not accepting refugees.  It means we're worst than other countries.  Which is true since we can't say we can protect them.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 29, 2015, 10:17:12 AM
I don't think Syrian refuges would likely to be attacked in most of the US, and of course, the police are obliged to protect everyone.

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The US is not as popular as CU4 thinks it is. Of course, the Mexicans films that portray the lives of Mexicans who come to the US, both legally and legally are  rarely dubbed or even subtitled, so he would not know this.

Moving from one culture to another is always difficult for everyone. Some adapt to it easily, others do not.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 29, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
The US is not as popular as CU4 thinks it is.

I know you get a major hard-on by diminishing the US any chance you get,
but you are clearly wrong once again.
The United States is the most popular immigration destination in the world.
So if we are not that popular, then what the hell is everywhere else?....lol

That's actually quite bad for America for not accepting refugees. 
It means we're worst than other countries. 

Simply rubbish and factually incorrect.

Moving from one culture to another is always difficult for everyone. Some adapt to it easily, others do not.

Again "less than most" is an incredibly huge number of people trying to get in here.


(http://taxprof.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c4eab53ef01156f58a78a970c-800wi)

Sept. 25, 2015

1. The United States

The U.S. remains the top country for receiving migrants, taking in 989,900 in 2013. This number measures lawful permanent resident status granted and does not include migration to the U.S. by other means. These new immigrants brought the entire U.S. foreign-born population to 13 percent of the total population.

The U.S. is also the top refugee resettlement country, with an annual cap of 70,000 people per year. In 2013, the U.S. admitted 69,900 refugees, a 20 percent increase from the previous year. Secretary of State John Kerry announced Sunday that the U.S. will increase this amount in the coming years to help share the burden of the world's current migration crisis. The U.S. will take 85,000 next year and increase to 100,000 by 2017.

http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/5-countries-that-take-the-most-immigrants/2
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 29, 2015, 11:28:10 AM
What rubbish? I'm talking about refusal of letting Syrian refugees in and stated we can't protect sihk from anti muslim attacks .

So it's very possible America is unsafe for these refugees
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 29, 2015, 12:44:08 PM
It is not that it is unimportant. It is because most of what gets posted here is from Fox "News" and other "News" sources. Evil Muslims are the flavor of the day.  I notice that on a regular basis Fox "News", a cable channel, runs dozens of ads hyping itself as the "most watched cable news channel", and sirs and CU4 dutifully  report this as how Fox "News" is the most popular News channel, even thought it is a cable channel and is far less popular than broadcast news channels. It also spends more time running ads, commentary and self-promotion than anything that could possibly be called news.

So if you want to post about Asians being mugged, you will have to do it yourself.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 29, 2015, 01:49:40 PM
Yes XO...Asians, Sihk's,and Muslims are being treated so
badly in the US that's why so many keep pouring in!
Gosh it must be so bad for the Asians look at this CNN headline!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/us/pew-study-immigration-asians-hispanics/

Just like the standard bullshit Left talking point fantasy land agenda
that every cop is a racist and cops are killing lots of innocent blacks
and the much larger problem of "blacks murdering blacks" is to be
downplayed and "hush hush".

You live outside of reality.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 29, 2015, 06:09:59 PM
You make up a bunch of crap and accuse me of believing it.

You want to see what is done about Blacks killing one another, watch this.
http://www.officialchiraqthemovie.com/
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 30, 2015, 02:32:58 PM
Has Assaults on sihks in america been proven untrue??
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 30, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
There was an assault on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in which six were killed.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-08-06/news/33066184_1_sikh-temple-gunman-temple-kitchen

It is likely that CU4 thought that this caused even more Sikhs in India to want to come to take their place.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Plane on December 30, 2015, 07:25:51 PM
Has Assaults on sihks in america been proven untrue??

    I have heard of a few.

   An attack like this requires an attacker who really does not know what he is looking at, unfortunately that sort of ignorance isn't rare enough.

  Just discussing it in public and on media small and large probably helps.

   But it is also counterproductive to lynch actual Muslims , the victim of such an act would more often than not be harmless or of goodwill.

      IN the two weeks after 9-11-01 tension was high and the president addressed this subject directly in public addresses, keeping the lid on mostly.
        I recall one fatal rage attack in that period and the victim was a Sikh, the perpetrator I remember less  about , but was obviously a bonehead.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: kimba1 on December 31, 2015, 12:30:38 AM
This is my focus. Not that its wrong here to attack muslims but that the attackers also harm the wrong people. I bring this up often with often little response. People do not wish to deal with this. Easy to ignore
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Plane on December 31, 2015, 07:15:44 AM
The right people to attack are out of reach for most of us.

Even an air force A-10 pilot flying over Iraqi territory has to be careful because most of the people in the area are innocent.

Bombs really don't care , even the smartest of them, so decisions made in advance produce the rules of engagement in hope of reducing the burden of collateral damage on the innocent.

Thus even a trained warrior with heavy bombloads over the heads of the genuinely guilty come back frustrated sometimes.

Picking on randomly chosen Muslims in the US is more likely to harm the innocent to no purpose at all.  Finding a guilty one that way has the odds of a lotto ticket.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 31, 2015, 11:33:58 AM
Sikhs are ever so much easier to identify as foreigners than Saudi fanatics wearing American street clothes: they look like swarthy Israelis at the worst.

Stupid rednecks would pick a Sikh over a disguised Saudi every time.
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Plane on December 31, 2015, 05:10:37 PM
   Even worse, Chechens are the most fanatical of them all, and as Caucasian as anyone from the Caucuses. 
Title: Re: Actually if we put muslims in internment camp may have serious benefits.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 01, 2016, 12:24:57 PM
It is the individual, not his ethnic background that makes him dangerous. Fanatics are very hard to combat, because they often want to be martyred. Religious fanatics seem to crave this more than political martyrs.

I think all our presidential assassins have been political assassins, though.