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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 11:53:39 AM »
>>What threat to America and the world?<<

You can't be serious. Well, you are, but one has to wonder how given past events anyone could deny the threat posed by Hamas.

Hamas and Hezbollah pose as much threat to you and your family as the RIRA.
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 12:33:33 PM »
>>Hamas and Hezbollah pose as much threat to you and your family as the RIRA.<<

I'm sure you had the same opinion prior to 9-11. The fact is you have no idea what threat they actually pose. Unless of course you're one of them. However, logic dictates that their threats be taken seriously in order to avoid repeating history.

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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 12:58:21 PM »
>>Hamas and Hezbollah pose as much threat to you and your family as the RIRA.<<

I'm sure you had the same opinion prior to 9-11. The fact is you have no idea what threat they actually pose. Unless of course you're one of them. However, logic dictates that their threats be taken seriously in order to avoid repeating history.

Repeating history? When did Hamas or Hezbollah have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks? As I recall, none of the attackers were even Palestinian.

In fact, one of the groups we're discussing are a Shia political faction and the group you're linking them to (ineffectively I might add) are Sunni zealots.
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 01:09:13 PM »
It's just something to think about when considering how to remove the threat these people represent to America and the world.

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"These people" ie, the  Palestinians pose NO THREAT to the US or anywhere else in the world except Israel.


 
Israel has provoked them by taking their homes and lands and treating them like crap for sixty years.
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 01:33:02 PM »
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 01:47:46 PM »
Interesting choice of monkeys for your little display.

I imagine that's about what the Israeli Government thinks of Palestinians. I'm sure that when an Israeli sniper targets a Palestinian child throwing rocks and puts a .50 cal round through his head - he sure as shit cannot be thinking of the kid as a human being.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2007, 02:43:05 PM »
>>I imagine that's about what the Israeli Government thinks of Palestinians.<<

You tend to do a lot of imagining don't you. You imagine there's no terrorist threat and you imagine you know something about Pakistani politics, and you imagine terrorists tell the truth.

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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 02:49:38 PM »
ou can't be serious. Well, you are, but one has to wonder how given past events anyone could deny the threat posed by Hamas.

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What has Hamas done to you lately?

Hamas has one enemy, Israel. Hezbollah is mostly focused o Israel as well, becasue Israel has a nasty habit of invading Lebanon and otherwise killing Lebanese.

Neither has done anything to any American in the US.
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 04:10:31 PM »
>>What has Hamas done to you lately?<<

Thanks to President George W. Bush, nothing.

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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 04:19:49 PM »
>>I imagine that's about what the Israeli Government thinks of Palestinians.<<

You tend to do a lot of imagining don't you. You imagine there's no terrorist threat and you imagine you know something about Pakistani politics, and you imagine terrorists tell the truth.

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No, I don't do much "imagining" as you describe it.

I am by no means an expert on Pakistani politics, or even very knowledgeable. I know a little about Nawaz Sharif, Bhutto, and Musharraf from reading and a couple with whom I am good friends and one happens to be Pakistani. If anything, I'm knowledgable about some recent history in the region, but by no means current affairs in Pakistan.

Secondly, there is a terrorist threat. In fact, there was one long before September 11th, 2001. The point is that it isn't much of a threat and should be weighed accordingly. More than that, groups like Hamas and Hezbollah existed before al-Qaeda and it does no good to simply lump all militant groups of the Middle East into one faction. When a nation acts as the Israelis have they are going to be met with the response they have received. The same goes for the United States. Imperialism has consequences.

Lastly, there is no "believing the terrorists tell the truth." Israeli soldiers do shoot Palestinians. They've also fired tank rounds, artillery shells, and dropped bombs into the Bantustans indiscriminately. All you have to do to understand that is open your eyes and look at the photos of the aftermath. You can live in the fantasy land of some 50's western where Israel is the good marshall and the Palestinians are dirty outlaws, but in the real world it is not so black and white.
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 04:24:14 PM »
ou can't be serious. Well, you are, but one has to wonder how given past events anyone could deny the threat posed by Hamas.

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What has Hamas done to you lately?

Hamas has one enemy, Israel. Hezbollah is mostly focused o Israel as well, becasue Israel has a nasty habit of invading Lebanon and otherwise killing Lebanese.

Neither has done anything to any American in the US.

Good trivia question.
Prior to 9-11-01 which of these two orginisations had the bragging rights to being the biggest killer of Americans amoung all the worlds terror orginisations?

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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 04:24:46 PM »
More of your vivid imagination. It's really only interesting in the respect that we get to see how far gone some people are.

So Hamas in no threat, nor was Al Qaeda. Afterall, al Qaeda was thousands of mines away. They were a backwards bunch of guys who couldn't possibly reach us way over here in America.

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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 04:25:17 PM »
Interesting choice of monkeys for your little display.

I imagine that's about what the Israeli Government thinks of Palestinians. I'm sure that when an Israeli sniper targets a Palestinian child throwing rocks and puts a .50 cal round through his head - he sure as shit cannot be thinking of the kid as a human being.


Have you any indication that this has happened?

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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 04:37:36 PM »
Interesting choice of monkeys for your little display.

I imagine that's about what the Israeli Government thinks of Palestinians. I'm sure that when an Israeli sniper targets a Palestinian child throwing rocks and puts a .50 cal round through his head - he sure as shit cannot be thinking of the kid as a human being.


Have you any indication that this has happened?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52966-2004May24.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/23/1085250870992.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/04/mideast/index.html
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Re: The Benefits of Palestinian Economic Collapse
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 05:51:12 PM »
More of your vivid imagination. It's really only interesting in the respect that we get to see how far gone some people are.

So Hamas in no threat, nor was Al Qaeda. Afterall, al Qaeda was thousands of mines away. They were a backwards bunch of guys who couldn't possibly reach us way over here in America.

Rich, I just wanted to tell you that I find you highly inspirational.

Seriously.

Everything you write in here and every article you post convinces me more completely of the opposing viewpoint.

One example: I never would have considered voting for Obama before the Frontpage article you posted and defended. Now, if he receives the nomination, I would definitely consider it.

Thanks.
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