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sirs

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That piss poor judgement is spreading
« on: May 14, 2011, 12:59:14 PM »
....to the 1st Lady

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Once again, we have an association controversy at the White House. This week, a rapper who calls himself "Common" was invited by Michelle Obama to read some of his "poetry" to a handpicked audience in the "People's House." The problem is that Common (real name Lonnie Rashid Lynn) has glorified convicted cop killers Joanne Chesimard and Mumia Abu-Jamal.

You may remember that Chesimard, a member of the Black Liberation Army, was found guilty of first-degree murder in 1977 for killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster. After being stopped on the New Jersey Turnpike, Chesimard and two accomplices opened fire on Foerster and his partner, James Harper, who was wounded.

Chesimard was sentenced to life in prison but escaped in 1979, fleeing to Cuba where she has been granted asylum.

Even though Common wasn't yet born when that murder took place, he has insisted in his raps that Chesimard is innocent. He has said the same thing about Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of killing Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981.

While Common is entitled to rap any way he wants, it is troubling that he would be sought out by the administration for a prestigious exposition. Is this not a tacit endorsement of the man? White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says no, explaining that sympathy for cop killers is not "the sum total of this particular artist's work."

The number of poets who would like to read their work at the White House is almost unlimited. It is a huge honor. Among those reading with Common were Steve Martin and Elizabeth Alexander. Surely the first lady could have chosen a more appropriate artist than Common.

Once again, we have a judgment issue. Many police agencies across the country are outraged by the embrace the White House has given Common, and I submit that millions of Americans are not comfortable with the selection, either.

I have been a fan of Mrs. Obama during her tenure as first lady. She has brought grace and dignity to the White House. Her campaign to fight child obesity is right on, and I have personally witnessed Mrs. Obama going out of her way to show great kindness to regular folks.

But both Barack and Michelle Obama have a blind spot when it comes to social controversy. The Rev. Wright situation was obviously disturbing. Then, on Easter Sunday, the first couple sat in a church where the cleric, a known verbal bomb-thrower, sermonized about slavery injustice. Now, the questionable Common.

The black experience in America is far different from the white experience, and honest people understand that. But the president and first lady represent all of us and should always be aware of sensitivities. Common may be the best rapper on Earth, but his words have brought pain to the families and friends of two slain police officers.

That is enough to disqualify the man from a White House honor.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 04:23:30 PM »
This stuff is happening so often that nobody can possibly keep track of it. Obama and his family are a disgrace.

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 04:26:14 PM »
Believing someone is not guilty of a crime they have been convicted off is not all that un - "common".  Even in murder cases. A lot of people, including entertainers, writers, and poets, have been taken in by murders and their cases. Norman Mailer comes infamously to mind. Mailer helped gain parole for one Jack Abbot, a convicted killer and wanabe writer. Six weeks after Abbot was paroled he killed again. Should Mailer never have been allowed to speak, or read, at the White House?

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 04:48:50 PM »
This is yet another piece of right wing crap that appears with clocklike regularity on Fox or some stupid talk show and then the whole swarm of reactionaries jumps on it as though it were actually important that one performer out of a dozen in the White House had a controversial opinion.

This is a particularly insignificant thing to complain about.
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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 05:02:57 PM »
Can't say I'm surprised at those defending the piss poor judgement
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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 05:30:27 PM »
I doubt the Obama's care anymore about what O'Reilly thinks than Bush did about what Air America thought.

The whole Common controversy is much ado about nada.

Seems to me this whole location linkage to the first amendment is getting out of hand.

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 05:43:06 PM »
How is this criticism of the Obama's continued piss-poor judgement demonstrations, some support in the abridgement of one's 1st amendment??  Who's claiming that Common can't spew his rap or embrace cop killers in his music??

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 06:06:22 PM »
Common is on record as having doubts as to whether certain accused cop killers are actually guilty. And then he gets invited to the WH, and we all know location is everything.

So of course he is perfectly entitled to express his opinion. Just don't expect to be invited to the Whitehouse without rescinding them first. Because the tsk tsk'ers will be out en masse.





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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 06:11:54 PM »
and......that answered my question, how again??  Why bring up the 1st amendment, if no one, including O'Reilly wants Common to be shut up?? 

Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with free speech.  It has to do with poor judgement, in inviting a rapper, who supports cop killers in his music, to the WH when there are so many other millions of folks who'd love such an opportunity, but don't promote such radical intolerance
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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 06:17:49 PM »
If Common believes that the accused cop killers are innocent, then he does not necessarily approve of killing cops, does he?
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As BT says, this is a matter of extreme insignificance, except in the Wondrous Land of sirs.
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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 06:23:46 PM »
If Common believes that the accused cop killers are innocent, then he does not necessarily approve of killing cops, does he?

Yea, because one can also believe in the innocence of Charles Manson & Ted Bundy.  Sure doesn't make them approving of mass murdering now, does it     ::)    So Common is........crazy perhaps?


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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 06:34:48 PM »
and......that answered my question, how again??  Why bring up the 1st amendment, if no one, including O'Reilly wants Common to be shut up?? 

Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with free speech.  It has to do with poor judgement, in inviting a rapper, who supports cop killers in his music, to the WH when there are so many other millions of folks who'd love such an opportunity, but don't promote such radical intolerance

Because O'Reilly and you want this man to be penalized for exercising his free speech.




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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 06:53:38 PM »
LOL...."penalized" does not equate to shutting up, but nice try.  No one, myself or O'Reilly are advocating jail time, or even an arrest warrant.  And a rapper embracing cop killers in his music shouldn't be rewarded with a WH visit.  A person who burns U.S. flags in exercising their free speech, shouldn't be rewarded with such a visit either.  Both completely within their right to to spew their radical nonsense, but neither is appropriate for a WH invitation. 

Not good judgement....kinda sends the wrong message to the rest of the electorate
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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 06:58:55 PM »
LOL...."penalized" does not equate to shutting up, but nice try.  No one, myself or O'Reilly are advocating jail time, or even an arrest warrant.  And a rapper embracing cop killers in his music shouldn't be rewarded with a WH visit.  A person who burns U.S. flags in exercising their free speech, shouldn't be rewarded with such a visit either.  Both completely within their right to to spew their radical nonsense, but neither is appropriate for a WH invitation. 

Not good judgement....kinda sends the wrong message to the rest of the electorate

So where was this hue and cry when the Governor of Massachusetts was invited to the Whitehouse?

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Re: That piss poor judgement is spreading
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2011, 07:02:50 PM »
Context please.  What cop killer were they embracing?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle