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3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: October 01, 2007, 02:59:35 PM »
No, I am not.

yes you are
see below
it is underlined

Listen closely:

listen on a message board?
ummm does this board have sound?

1. It is not uncommon for the left in Britain to take that opinion on immigration.

If that is true, so?

2. Immigration is not the same in Britain as it is in the United States.

not much in life is identical

Most of those immigrants discussed in that study are already part of the UK and have been for some time.

so?

Pakistanis for example, have been in Britain for quite some time.

so?

That was my point.

ok that was your point, but if you see below, you admit to an additional point which is exactly what I said

"The point about the Telegraph which is a respected newspaper, concerns the use of language such as "benefit dependency."

You are much mistaken about "my game."

see above

Now if you wish to have a sincere discussion of Britain's immigration, then let's do so.

I wish had time, but even if i had time I am really not sure I would wish to spend alot of time on that subject

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3DHS / Re: War
« on: October 01, 2007, 01:59:41 PM »
I think it is more like 46 million abortions performed worldwide...but what would I know? I'm "just silly

JS (just socialist?) this cartoon is obviously for and about Americans in regard to the Iraq War and abortion
still the horror of 46 million is staggering
thank you for the horrifying number

10863
3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: October 01, 2007, 01:52:10 PM »
speaking of not reading....

i did not say you said
i said you implied

whatever

you and I both know what your game is
you are trying to discredit because of the source
but the ultimate source of this data is from a LEFT WING think tank

10864
3DHS / Russians Know Iranian Nuclear Facilities About To Be Attacked?
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:59:50 PM »
Russians employed at Iran's Bushehr nuclear reactor suddenly depart in a body,
according to local Arab sources

October 1, 2007,

 
The Khorramshar News Agency, which is published by the ethnic Arab underground of Iran's oil-rich Khuzestan, reported early Oct. 1 that the entire staff of Russian nuclear engineers and experts employed in building the nuclear reactor at Bushehr had abruptly packed their bags Friday, Sept. 28, and flew back to Russia. The agency's one-liner offers no source or explanation.

The story appears to have originated with the ethnic Arabs who live near the reactor or who come in contact with its Russian staff. If true, our sources offer three hypothetical scenarios to account for the Russians precipitate departure:

1. Another crisis has cropped up in the patchy Russian-Iranian dealings over the Bushehr reactor. This is unlikely because Russian president Vladimar Putin is due for a high-profile visit to Tehran on Oct. 16, when he plans to sign a series of nuclear accords with the Islamic Republic. Furthermore, Moscow, like Beijing, stands foursquare behind Iran's efforts to delay harsher sanctions for its continued uranium enrichment. Only this week, the two powers gained Iran two to three months grace by forcing a delay in the UN Security Council session that was to have approved a third round of sanctions.

2. Moscow or Tehran has been tipped off that a US or Israeli attack is imminent on the Bushehr plant and Iran?s other nuclear installations and acted to whip Russian personnel out of harm's way.

3. Moscow has learned that an Iranian pre-emptive attack is imminent against American targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf and/or Israel.

Aside from these hypothetical scenarios, Iranian sources report that the Khorramshar News Agency keeps its ear to the ground on happenings in Bushehr, because it is claimed by Khuzistan separatists as Arab land which they will fight to liberate from Iranian "occupation."

[source: e-mail]

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3DHS / Re: War
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:51:36 PM »
It doesn't always work that way.

Yes it does
just because it does not apply to you and JS("just silly"), does not mean "it doesn't work that way"
it is a fact that many of the leftist that oppose the war and are screaming the loudest about the "loss of life"
are the exact same people that don't seem to care that 12 million lives have been lost to abortion

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3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:43:30 PM »
yes I read your garbage
you are trying to imply the findings are "right wing"
which in fact is not at all true

10867
3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:33:42 PM »
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants are a drain on Britain and its economy, not a benefit, says a Left-leaning think tank.

10868
3DHS / Re: War
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:22:44 PM »







10869
3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: October 01, 2007, 12:20:22 PM »
"Second, you're reading this out of The Telegraph so you are going to get the
right wing view of everything, though better than The Daily Mail I'll grant you"



it clearly states in the article this study was done by a "Left-leaning think tank"


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3DHS / Re: economic consequences of cracking down on illegal immigration
« on: September 30, 2007, 07:48:15 PM »


Immigation drains Britain, says Left think tank
By Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent
BST 30/09/2007

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants are a drain on Britain and its economy, not a benefit, says a Left-leaning think tank.

Migrants from many developing nations fail to pay their way, while those from wealthy countries, such as the United States and Australia,
provide a boost for the economy.

The report, published today by the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), sets out to reveal which nationalities are "a debit on Britain's balance sheet".

It found that fewer than half of Britain's 650,000 Somalis, Bangladeshis, Turks and Pakistanis, have jobs and the four communities have the highest levels of benefit dependency.

Britain's fastest-growing migrant group, the Poles, score above-average for employment, but have the lowest hourly pay and make a below-average tax contribution.

Channel 4 commissioned the report for a Dispatches documentary, Immigrants: the Inconvenient Truth, to be shown tomorrow night.

The IPPR, which has close links to Labour, insisted that its report "is not an attempt to cast immigrant communities in a bad or good light".
However, its findings will be seized on by those campaigning for tighter immigration controls.

New government statistics predict a two million rise in population over the next decade due to immigration, more than previous projections.

Liam Byrne, the immigration minister, said last week that the forecast "underlines the need for swift and sweeping changes to the immigration system".

This newspaper revealed last week that one in five crimes in London is now committed by foreign nationals, with Poles, Jamaicans, Irish and Somalis at the top of the list.

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=KAZ1CFX4V4DRNQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/09/30/nimm130.xml





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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 28, 2007, 04:09:25 PM »
re: Do you know who Rachel Corrie is?

Please tell me you are not equating Rachel Corrie who was in an IDF designated security zone by choice, an area the
IDF had designated a security zone for operations designed to uncover a network of smuggling tunnels, to a young girl
sitting on a civilian commuter bus that was blown to smithereens by a group intentionally targeting civilians for death?



10872
3DHS / Bill Clinton's extended family?
« on: September 28, 2007, 01:13:14 PM »



10873
3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 28, 2007, 01:05:18 PM »
"teensy middle-class Israel, gets more foreign aid from the US than all of those pink countries"

well duh. look at the map. it's pretty clear what they face.

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3DHS / Re: Gen. Casey: Army is worn too thin
« on: September 27, 2007, 10:06:06 PM »
shouldn't this headline actually be pleasing to a large segment of the pacifist anti-military left?

in fact if the headline is true, maybe the far left should come around and support the Iraq war
because don't they want the American military weaker and "worn too thin" so the US has to cave in to
a more "equatable and fair" world?  ;)






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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 27, 2007, 04:39:57 PM »









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