Have you seen this?

[Plane]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Buzz/2014/1027/Hillary-Clinton-says-businesses-don-t-create-jobs.-Uh-oh.-video...

"You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. You know, one of the things my husband says when people say ‘Well, what did you bring to Washington,’ he said, ‘Well, I brought arithmetic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyUoCiWsTfI

'Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.'

Ok , you call this, is she abysmally stupid , or is she cynical and assumes her audience is abysmally stupid?


     I think it would be kinder to call her stupid , but I really think she isn't , I would bet that she knows better but has just that little respect for her voters.

[sirs]

Yea I did......trying to torpedo her chances, before she even gets started?  Oh yea, this is how its not the private sector that creates jobs.  This is all about how Government creates them.......by taxing the private sector & middle class into oblivion, so that the only entity still standing is Government.  Right?

[Plane]

  I used to think she wanted very much to be President.


Could be not so.


   Perhaps she just wants to sell a lot of books.

     Charge a lot of speakers fees.

       Otherwise amass a fortune.

[Plane]

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/27/right-wing-media-praise-failed-theory-of-trickl/201330


   This is putting bandages on damage.

    Refocus the remark on to "Trickle Down Theory" .

       This will probably be good enough for the people who think that" Trickle down theory " is a real thing.


       Does anyone know where "Trickle Down Theory " was ever taught , or practiced as a policy?



      "Trickle down" is Democrat speak, for getting hired by someone who should just be handing you the money.

        Republicans don't do "Trickle Down" we prefer "rising tide lifts all boats".

[sirs]

Well Summized there, Master Yoda     

[Xavier_Onassis]

The rising tide has only been lifting luxury yachts since 1977 or so.
The Republicans need a new slogan, because that one is inoperative.

[sirs]

Actually, and literally, all boats rise when the tide rises.  Dingys, intertubes, and yachts alike

[Xavier_Onassis]

This is true if you are talking about the actual ocean.

It is untrue if you are using this as a metaphor for the economy.
If you are an investor, it is true. If you are the average person who derives most of his income from wages, it is untrue.

I have received income from both sources. My wages were more or less in line with inflation.
My investments far outpaced inflation.

I do not attribute this to my personal cleverness so much as the cleverness and foresight of those who write the newsletter I use to select investments.
The newsletter almost NEVER refers to how politicians have succeeded or are to blame for the rises and falls in the market.

[sirs]

This is true if you are talking about the actual ocean.

The point is rhetorical.....and accurate to the economy as well.  Policies that help EVERYONE, including those dastardly rich, are precisely the policies that Conservatives support from GOP candidates.  You see, "fair" in our dictionary applies to EVERYONE

Politicians have very little influence on the market.  Government Policies can cause it to nosedive, but the market's successes are almost always happening in spite of what the Fed is trying to do.  Anytime the Fed can either stay out of the way, or more so, push policies to apply to EVERYONE is the literal definition of fair

[sirs]

[Xavier_Onassis]

The economy has not benefited the average American since the mid-70's.
That is simply a fact.

[sirs]

Our economy ebs and flows...the "average American" has benefitted when policies helped spur economic growth, as they did under Reagan, and from the free market, as they did under Clinton.  The "average American" has been screwed when policies were allowed to fester and degrade certain markets, as they did under Bush II, and from policies trying to mandate behavior, both to businesses and to individuals, as they currently are under Obama.  Yes, the "dreaded rich" generally do better, but that doesn't negate that the "average American" also does better.  And when "the rich" get hit financially, they lose a hell of a lot more than the "average American"

Policies that help EVERYONE, including the dreaded "rich" are to be supported and applauded.  And no amount of idiotic comments by a wound-be want-to-be president Clinton is going to change that fact

[Plane]

Yes, well said.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Reagan did nothing for the average American. At the beginning of his term, he took measures that resulted in a lot of unemployment.
The average person did not get paid more in 1988  in real dollars than in 1980, and there was a good chance that he was unemployed.

Reagan was no help to the average American.

[sirs]

That's one opinion.  The other, backed up by actual facts, demonstrates that lowered taxes actually had revenues to the treasury increase.  22 million jobs were created, and the average income for ALL classes, upper, middle, and lower went UP while unemployment went down.  Can't say the same for the current administration now, can we.  Not to mention that gas and food prices also went down, following the repeal of the dreaded policies of the prior Administration

You're right though...Reagan was no help to the "average American".  He was a help to EVERY American