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3DHS / Re: Obama might send troops into Pakistan
« on: August 02, 2007, 12:47:03 PM »
this is such a major gaffe
i don't see how he can let it stand?

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3DHS / Re: Obama might send troops into Pakistan
« on: August 02, 2007, 09:48:30 AM »
Obama makes infinitely more sense than anything the inept and incompetent Juniorbush has done. Time to put the Pakis on notice

you could actually support a "us troops invasion" of pakistan?
under what specific circumstances are you supporting the barack hussein obama led us troop invasion of pakistan?

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3DHS / Re: Obama might send troops into Pakistan
« on: August 01, 2007, 03:58:40 PM »
The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion

what hog-wash
barack hussein obama threatens pakistan with a "us troop invasion"
what would michael moore say to this?
what % of the democratic party would support a us troop invasion in pakistan?
laughable skullduggery

11089
Defeatism Defeated?
Cracks on the homefront.

By Thomas Sowell - August 1, 2007

If victory in Iraq was oversold at the outset, there are now signs that defeat is likewise being oversold today.

One of the earliest signs of this was that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has said that he could not wait for General David Petraeus?s September report on conditions in Iraq but tried to get an immediate congressional mandate to pull the troops out.

Having waited for years, why could he not wait until September for the report by the general who is actually on the ground in Iraq every day? Why was it necessary for politicians in Washington to declare the troop surge a failure from 8,000 miles away?

The most obvious answer is that Senator Reid feared that the surge would turn out not to be a failure ? and the Democrats had bet everything, including their chances in the 2008 elections, on an American defeat in Iraq.

Senator Reid had to preempt defeat before General Petraeus could report progress. The Majority Leader?s failure to get the Senate to do that suggests that not enough others were convinced that declaring failure now was the right political strategy.

An optimist might even hope that some of the senators thought it was wrong for the country.

Another revealing sign is that the solid front of the mainstream media in filtering out any positive news from Iraq and focusing only on American casualties ? in the name of ?honoring the troops? ? is now starting to show cracks.

One of the most revealing cracks has appeared in, of all places, the New York Times, which has throughout the war used its news columns as well as its editorial pages to undermine the war in Iraq and paint the situation as hopeless.

But an op-ed piece in the July 30 New York Times by two scholars at the liberal Brookings Institution ? Michael E. O?Hanlon and Kenneth M. Pollack ? now paints a very different picture, based on their actual investigation on the ground in Iraq after the American troop surge under General Petraeus.

It is not a rosy scenario by any means. There are few rosy scenarios in any war. But O?Hanlon and Pollack report some serious progress.

?Today,? they report, ?morale is high? among American troops and ?civilian fatality rates are down roughly a third since the surge began.?

In two cities they visited in northern Iraq ?American troop levels in both cities now number only in the hundreds because the Iraqis have stepped up to the plate? in providing their own security.

?Today,? they say, ?in only a few places did we find American commanders complaining that their Iraqi formations were useless ? something that was the rule, not the exception, on a previous trip to Iraq in late 2005.?

In the last six months, O?Hanlon and Pollack report, ?Iraqis have begun to turn on the extremists.?

In Ramadi, where American Marines ?were fighting for every yard? of territory just a few months ago, ?last week we strolled down the streets without body armor.?

Victory is not inevitable, any more than victory was inevitable when American and British troops landed at Normandy in 1945. General Eisenhower even kept in his pocket a written statement taking full responsibility in the event of failure.

But victory is not even defined the same way in Iraq as it was in World War II. American troops do not need to stay in Iraq until the last vestige of terrorism has been wiped out.

The point when it is safe to begin pulling out is the point when the Iraqi military and police forces are strong enough to continue the fight against the terrorists on their own.

That point depends on how much and how long the current progress continues, not on how much the Democrats or their media allies need an American defeat before the 2008 election.

O?Hanlon and Pollack warn that ?the situation in Iraq remains grave? but conclude that ?there is enough good happening in Iraq that Congress should plan on sustaining the effort at least into 2008.?

But 2008 may have an entirely different significance for politicians than for these Brookings scholars.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGQ4MTgyNGQ2N2I3ZWM0ZTkzYTEzMjlhYzQ2ZGZiYjY=

 

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3DHS / Re: Mikey won't like this one
« on: August 01, 2007, 03:51:59 AM »
But of late there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive. Clyburn said that would be "a real big problem for us."

united states progress in iraq is a "big problem" for democrats?

11091
3DHS / Re: Hard questions
« on: July 31, 2007, 10:52:04 AM »
Iraq Report: Attacks fail to materialize after soccer victory
July 30, 2007

The Iraqi soccer team gave the nation a reason to celebrate on Sunday with a victory over Saudi Arabia and the championship in the Asia Games. There were no major attacks reported during Sunday celebrations, and Iraqi security forces killed a suicide bomber and defused another car bomb in Baghdad. Last week's victory in the semifinals was followed by two brutal attacks by al Qaeda in Iraq against civilians celebrating in the streets; over fifty were killed and 130 wounded in twin suicide car bomb attacks. The Iraqi security forces in Baghdad learned the lessons from last week's attacks, and a traffic ban was instituted on Sunday prior to the completion of the soccer match.

As Operation Phantom Thunder and the Baghdad Security Plan progress in Baghdad and the Belts, some more anecdotal evidence is emerging that the surge is beginning to show real success in the security sphere. The civilian death rate has been reduced by 36 percent since May, and U.S. combat deaths have dropped to an eight month low. While U.S. combat casualties are not a good indicator of success, they are significant in this instance as there is more troop in Iraq than there have been for the past two years, and U.S. forces are now operating outside their bases and are conducting major combat operations in al Qaeda, Mahdi Army, and insurgent strongholds.

Over the past several days, Coalition and Iraqi forces have been active in the Baghdad Belt regions of Diyala, Anbar, and Babil provinces.

Anbar, Diyala, and Babil

While Multinational Forces West launched a major operation in the Thar Thar and Karma regions in eastern Anbar province, another major operation was launched in the far west. Operation Mawtini was launched on July 26 in the town of Kubaysah near Hit. U.S. and Iraqi forces bermed the city and are conducting clearing operations. To date, the operation has resulted in the capture of 124 suspected insurgents and the discovery of 38 weapons caches.

In the city of Husaybah in the Al Qaim region on the Syrian border, Iraqi police captured two al Qaeda operatives. One was a cell leader who "runs al Qaeda in Iraq activities in Husaybuh, is purportedly involved in the planning of future large scale attacks against Coalition Forces in the western Euphrates River valley." The other was a teacher who incited his students attack the Iraqi security forces. Further east in Habbaniyah, the Iraqi Army captured two insurgents behind a series of IED and small arms attacks, kidnappings, financing insurgent activities, and providing intelligence for insurgent activities.

In Diyala province, Coalition and Iraqi operations continue to expand outward from the provincial capital of Baqubah, which has been the main focus of Operation Arrowhead Ripper. A two day operation in Miqdadiyah on July 25 and 26 resulted in seven insurgents killed and one captured. Another operation on July 26 to secure the Turki village resulted in 11 insurgents killed and 13 more captured. Al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents struck back in Baqubah, where car bombs killed three civilians and wounded 25 as they lined up to collect food rations. Insurgents also destroyed the tomb of the Prophet Daniel in the village of Wajihiya near Miqdadiyah.

In Northern Babil, the bulk of the recent operations have occurred in the Iskandariyah region under Operation Marne Avalanche. Since the operation began on July 16, seven insurgents have been killed and 60 captured, including six cell leaders.


Al Qaeda


The unrelenting daily raids against al Qaeda?s network continue. Iraqi security forces captured two members of an extra judicial and IED cell during a raid on the Jihad neighborhood in Baghdad on July 26. Sixteen al Qaeda suspects were captured during raids in Samarra and Tarmiyah on July 28. Coalition forces believe they captured an al Qaeda in Iraq sharia judge and his advisor during one of the Tarmiyah raids. Also on July 28, Iraqi security forces conducted a raid in Taji and captured two al Qaeda cell members responsible for attacks in Anbar province.

The July 29 and 30 operations against al Qaeda's command network in Anbar and Salahadin provinces resulted in eight al Qaeda operatives killed and 40 captured. Coalition forces struck in Tarmiyah, Karmah, Samarra and Baji during raids over the past two days. Additional raids on July 29 resulted in eight al Qaeda operatives killed and 22 captured during operations in Yusifiyah, Tikrit, Samarra, and south of Baghdad in northern Babil province.

http://billroggio.com/dailyiraqreport/2007/07/iraqi_report_attacks_fail_to_m.php


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3DHS / Re: Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket
« on: July 30, 2007, 09:30:12 PM »
I doubt Obama would settle for second fiddle

would hillary accept second fiddle on an obama ticket?

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3DHS / Re: Mikey won't like this one
« on: July 30, 2007, 09:27:20 PM »
wonderfully informative article
and the source is hardly a bush outlet (The New York Times)
sadly i firmly believe that this news is why some on the left are in a panic mode to "cut and run" in iraq
they realize the tide is slowly turning
their worst nightmare would be an american success story in iraq
so they want out asap so it can be described as an american/bush defeat
hopefully the american people realize the stakes and will see the progress report coming this fall
i am so proud of our men and women serving over there and having such great impact as this article describes


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3DHS / Re: Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket
« on: July 30, 2007, 03:07:05 PM »
I doubt Obama would settle for second fiddle.

and make history?
plus hillary if elected won't serve 2 terms
she is looking old


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3DHS / Re: Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket
« on: July 30, 2007, 02:42:00 PM »
It is still not clear to me what Obama brings to the ticket. Hillary will already get the black vote. Someone enlighten me, please

you must be kidding?
obama appears to be an articulate wonderful speaker
obama is a nice looking fellow
obama is an "outsider" that many are looking for these days
obama would most likely present a nice image to attract the youth vote
obama will energize the black vote that normally does not turn out well
obama will be a "feel good" vote for alot of whites that have guilt
obama would be a huge huge huge "media darling"
and last but not least it appears Obama can raise lots of MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$

11096
3DHS / Re: Surveillance Cameras Win Broad Support
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:47:49 PM »
Americans, by nearly a 3-to-1 margin, support the increased use of surveillance cameras

great news
the bad guys wont like
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=403_1185268268

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3DHS / New British Prime Minister hails Bush's leadership
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:45:42 PM »
British PM hails Bush's leadership
July 30, 2007

GORDON Brown last night praised George Bush for leading the global war on terror ? saying the world owed America a huge debt.

The Prime Minister vowed to take Winston Churchill?s lead and make Britain?s ties with America even stronger.

Mr Brown stunned critics by THANKING President Bush for the fight against Islamic extremism, and insisted the UK-US relationship will be his No1 foreign policy priority.

He said on his first visit to the President?s US retreat at Camp David: ?Winston Churchill spoke of the ?joint inheritance? of our two countries.?

The PM said that meant ?a joint inheritance not just of shared history but shared values founded on a shared destiny?.

He added: ?America has shown by the resilience and bravery of its people from September 11 that while buildings can be destroyed, values are indestructable.

?We acknowledge the debt the world owes to the US for its leadership in this fight against international terrorism.?

Mr Brown?s two-day summit is his most important diplomatic hurdle.

He must show the Americans he is every bit as trustworthy with the Special Relationship as Tony Blair.

Washington feared he would weaken ties over the Iraq War and rising anti-Americanism in the Labour Party and Europe.

The appointment of the anti-US Lord Malloch Brown as a Foreign Office minister has been a major headache.

But the PM stressed America and Britain will continue to stand shoulder to shoulder.

He said: ?I have always been an Atlanticist and a great admirer of the American spirit of enterprise and national purpose and commitment to opportunity to all.
 
?And as Prime Minister I want to do more to strengthen even further our relationship with the US.?

Last night he and Mr Bush had dinner at Camp David. Today they will be joined by Foreign Secretary David Miliband and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

They will discuss the pullout of British troops from Iraq, though Mr Brown will stress he does not intend to speed it up.

Mr Bush will get the thumbs-up from Mr Brown for taking a tough line on Iran over its nuclear programme.

The pair will also take a fresh look at the Darfur crisis.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007350097,00.html

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3DHS / Re: Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:13:32 PM »
newt is probably correct
there is some risk with a clinton/obama ticket, but also an upside
if edwards was less flaky hillary would prefer him
newt is wise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9cqtJTvF4

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3DHS / Chairman of Afghanistan's Taliban military council killed
« on: July 30, 2007, 10:48:49 AM »
Chairman of Afghanistan's Taliban military council killed
By Bill Roggio on July 29, 2007

Qari Faiz Mohammad killed in a raid in Helmand province

Coalition forces struck another blow to the senior Taliban leadership in Afghanistan. On July 23, Afghan and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) troops killed Qari Faiz Mohammad, the chairman of the Taliban Military Shura, or council, during a targeted raid in Helmand province. Mohammad was also a close associate of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, and a chief financier for the Taliban.

Afghan and ISAF have been conducting major offensives up and down the Helmand River Valley in the northern portion of the province over the past several months. Major ground and air strikes have been ongoing in the Musa Qala, Kajaki, Nari Saraj, and Sangin districts in Helmand province, as well as in the Ghorak district in Kandahar and in southwestern Uruzgan. Coalition forces have been attempted to clear the Taliban stronghold and reopen the vital Kajaki Dam. The Taliban openly control the Musa Qala district. Upwards of 150 Taliban fighters have been killed in strikes in the region during the past week.

Afghan and ISAF forces clearly have good intelligence on the movement and locations of several senior Taliban leaders, including two members of the Taliban's Shura Majlis, or executive council. Mohammad's death follows the death or captured of several senior Taliban leaders since December 2006. Numerous regional and district-level Taliban commanders have been killed or captured during the same time period.

U.S. forces killed Mullah Akhtar Usmani, a member of the Taliban Shura Majlis, or executive council in December 2006. Mullah Omar's former deputy, a former foreign minister, and the operational commander in Uruzgan, Nimroz, Kandahar, Farah, Herat and Helmand provinces in souther Afghanistan.

Afghan forces captured Taliban spokesman Dr. Muhammad Hanif on January 16, 2007. Hanif has given numerous interviews with the media, and issued press releases and rebuttals to NATO and Afghan statements. He was said to have been in instant satellite phone and email contact with the press. Hanif claimed that Mullah Omar is operating out of Quetta.

In late February, Pakistani security forces arrested Mullah Obaidullah, the Taliban Defense Minister under during the reign of the Taliban from 1996 until the United States toppled the government in the fall of 2001. Obaidullah ?is considered by American intelligence officials to have been one of the Taliban leaders closest to Osama bin Laden, ? as well as part of the "inner core of the Taliban leadership around the Mullah Muhammad Omar who are believed to operate from the relative safety of Quetta." Obaidullah was a member of the Shura Majlis, and was thought to be the Taliban's third in command.

The Afghan military confirmed Mullah Dadullah Akhund, the brutal, charismatic, and respected Taliban military commander and leader of the forces in southern Afghanistan, was killed during an air strike on May 13. Mullah Dadullah sat on the Taliban Shura Majlis He was the Taliban's most senior military commander and reported to have been one of Mullah Omar's most trusted advisers. Dadullah joined forces with the Taliban at its formation in 1994. After the fall of Afghanistan in 2001, Dadullah fled to South Waziristan in Pakistan, where he reconstituted his forces and continued to fight NATO and Afghan forces. Dadullah orchestrated and promoted the Taliban's suicide campaign in Afghanistan.

On June 12, ISAF forces killed Mullah Mahmud Baluch, a senior Taliban commander in the Helmand and Nimruz provinces.

http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/07/chairman_of_afghanis.php

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3DHS / Re: Officially Endorsing the Times's Approach, on These Terms
« on: July 28, 2007, 09:37:06 PM »
I would endorse a movement to allow the surge more time to work.

agreed

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cba_1185637610

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