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When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« on: October 14, 2006, 12:17:43 PM »


White House denies book's allegations
By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press WriterFri Oct 13, 9:40 PM ET
A former Bush aide claims that evangelical Christians were embraced for political gain at the White House but derided privately as "nuts," "ridiculous" and "goofy."

The allegations — denied by the White House on Friday — are in a new book by David Kuo, a conservative Christian who was deputy director of President Bush's Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives until 2003.

The book describes Kuo's frustration at what he felt was lackluster enthusiasm in the White House for the program, which seeks to steer more federal social service contracts to religious organizations. Details from the book, "Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction," were reported by MSNBC ahead of Monday's publication date.

Kuo singled out staffers in the office of Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser and deputy chief of staff, as particularly condescending toward evangelical Christians, viewing them as necessary to help win elections but ridiculing them behind the scenes.

Kuo also described how officials from the faith-based office were systematically dispatched to hold large events in areas where there were key House and Senate races before the 2002 elections.

White House press secretary Tony Snow said he had not yet seen the book. But he said Rove was asked if he made the comments and replied he had not. Kuo, however, doesn't single out anyone by name as making the condescending comments.

"These are people who are friends. You don't talk about friends that way," Snow said.

Bush's spokesman also said there was no attempt to exploit the office to score political points, and that the president had specifically directed it not be politicized.

Snow denied Kuo's charge that the White House's religious charities program wasn't given the status it deserved, saying Bush's personal commitment to the policy was solid. Kuo has complained publicly in the past that the White House did not push hard enough for promised federal funding for religious groups to help the poor.

Snow read from what he called a "very warm letter" Kuo wrote to Bush when he left the White House. Kuo told the president he was proud of what the initiative had accomplished and said "it's your staff's keen awareness of your unwavering support for this initiative that's made the difference."

Snow concluded that the reports on the book "seem at odds with what he was saying inside the building at the time he departed."

Kuo's account of how the faith-based office has been regarded inside the White House recalls that of another high-level alumnus of the program. John J. DiIulio Jr., the faith-based office's first director, who quit in 2002, told Esquire magazine that "Mayberry Machiavellis" led by Rove based policy only on re-election concerns. After his comments caused an uproar, DiIulio apologized for making what he said were rude remarks.

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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2006, 12:19:34 PM »
White House denies book's allegations

And yet another retread. Can't find anything new, Knuttia?
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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2006, 02:05:23 PM »
I've noticed that when the White House accuses other people of doing something,   they're the ones who are really doing it.
Projection.
"Those dirty Dems! They'll make government bigger,  start nation-building wars..."  etc. etc. etc. 
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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2006, 03:29:44 PM »
I've noticed that when the White House accuses other people of doing something,   they're the ones who are really doing it.
Projection.
"Those dirty Dems! They'll make government bigger,  start nation-building wars..."  etc. etc. etc. 

The best example is when they call others fascits or evil.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brooks13oct13,0,3863244.column?coll=la-opinion-columnists
ROSA BROOKS

Rosa Brooks: A Good Week for the Axis of Evil
Two of its three countries made strides in acquiring nukes, and Bush should get a big chunk of the blame.
Rosa Brooks

October 13, 2006

THERE WAS good news and bad news for authoritarians this week.

On the international front, the authoritarian regime in North Korea scored a major victory, testing a nuclear weapon in defiance of the United States and the world community. Sure, millions of North Koreans face potential famine, but the "Dear Leader" himself — Kim Jong Il — is sitting pretty.

With dissidents tucked away in prison and scarce food supplies doled out strictly on the basis of ideology and party loyalty, Kim has every reason to indulge in a bit of self-congratulation. Technologically, his nuclear test may have been only a partial success, but it sure did get the world's attention. As the Korean Central News Agency — the "Dear Leader's" media mouthpiece — reported on Monday, this is "truly a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a great, prosperous, powerful socialist nation."

Elsewhere in the "axis of evil," things are also looking good. With the world otherwise occupied, the authoritarian Iranian regime has continued to suppress dissent and advance its own nuclear program, and it's surely heartened by North Korea's "great leap forward."

Al Qaeda must be pleased by the news too. Because Kim has always made clear his willingness to sell lethal technologies to the highest bidder, Al Qaeda has another potential purveyor of nuclear weapons.

Even Saddam Hussein may be enjoying the week's news. After all, he's having a ball at his Baghdad trial, while the U.S. struggles to respond to the rising tide of violence in Iraq and is impotent against Iran and North Korea.

If the "axis of evil" keeps making great leaps forward, we may someday see an Asia where a nuclear North Korea is a major power-broker, a Middle East where a nuclear Iran is a major power-broker, and a destabilized world where terrorist groups hold states hostage through their possession of nuclear technologies.

Back on the domestic front, however, this week's news was a humiliating setback for the United States' homegrown authoritarians — a.k.a. the Bush administration — who once pledged to keep nuclear weapons away from the "axis of evil."

In the 1990s, the Clinton administration used a mix of tough sanctions and incentives to keep North Korea and Iran from becoming urgent threats to global security. Though imperfect, that approach produced results. Under President Clinton, for instance, the North Koreans produced no new plutonium, conducted no nuclear weapons tests and produced no new nuclear weapons.

But like Kim and the Iranian mullahs, our own "Dear Leader" — President Bush — prizes ideology and loyalty uber alles.

When he took office, he refused to have anything to do with the policies embraced by his predecessors. Instead of using diplomacy and a careful balance of carrots and sticks, Bush just blustered and threatened. Dividing the world into good and evil, black and white, Bush insisted that he wouldn't negotiate with evil. And he tolerated no internal dissent. When then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell praised Clinton for reining in North Korean nuclear ambitions, Bush sent out Vice President Dick Cheney to issue a public rebuke.

Today, with North Korea and Iran openly thumbing their noses at us, we're seeing the predictable result of Bush's rigid and simplistic policies.

Of course, Bush's foolish policies were supported by all too many Americans — particularly those who share Bush's penchant for authoritarian-style political thinking. Data from the National Election Study suggest that, in recent years, those Americans with authoritarian personalities have flocked to the Republican Party.

Writing in the Democratic Strategist, Jonathan Weiler and Marc Hetherington note that "authoritarian personalities" are characterized by "a general moral, political and social intolerance, an aversion to ambiguity and a related desire for clear and unambiguous authority." Given their "antipathy toward complexity and moral ambiguity," authoritarians prefer "clear and simply stated solutions to vexing problems." And guess what? When you introduce voters with authoritarian personalities to Bush's "you're with us or you're against us" foreign policy, it's a match made in heaven!

But the real world is messy and ambiguous rather than black and white. In the real world, simplistic solutions that appeal to authoritarian personalities often backfire. Certainly, when it comes to the "axis of evil," the Bush administration's rigid, reductionist, good-versus-evil policies have only enhanced the power of our authoritarian foreign enemies.

Bottom line? This was a good week for foreign authoritarians, and a bad week for our homegrown ones.

But there's a silver lining for our local authoritarians. If the North Koreans or the Iranians ever do manage to take over the globe, our homegrown authoritarians may have to go through a brief period of reeducation. But after that, they're gonna fit right in.

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rbrooks@latimescolumnists.com


   

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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2006, 05:31:14 PM »
<<The best example is when they call others fascits or evil.>>

Well, uh, seems like they're not calling anyone "fascists" anymore.

<<For a while last summer, Bush depicted the war as one against "Islamic fascism," borrowing a phrase from conservative commentators. The strategy backfired, further fanning anti-American sentiment across the Muslim world.

<<The "fascism" phrase abruptly disappeared from Bush's speeches, reportedly after he was talked out of it by Secretary of State . . . >>

Hilarious, eh?  from a good discussion of more of Bush's lying bullshit and the number of times he's given the American people a different justification for his criminal, illegal attack on Iraq - -



<<Bush keeps revising war justification By TOM RAUM
<<Sat Oct 14, 12:40 PM ET>>

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Re: When the WH denies . . . oops, apologies to hnumpah!
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2006, 05:34:53 PM »
Didn't read hnumpah's prior post of the very article I quoted from regarding the moronic Bush administration's abandonment (finally) of the idiotic and completely nonsensical propaganda term "Islamo-Fascism."

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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2006, 05:53:13 PM »
I've noticed that when the White House accuses other people of doing something,   they're the ones who are really doing it.
Projection.


So strange how that mantra permeates nearly all of the DNC's and hard left's talking points.  Go figure
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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2006, 06:58:41 PM »
I've noticed that when the White House accuses other people of doing something,   they're the ones who are really doing it.
Projection.


So strange how that mantra permeates nearly all of the DNC's and hard left's talking points.  Go figure
Probly because it is true .

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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2006, 12:06:41 AM »
Probly because it is true .  (that when the left accuses other people of doing something, they're the ones already doing it....the art of projection)

Wow, Knute agrees with me.  I must be wrong     ;)
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Re: When the WH denies something, you know it must be true.
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2006, 01:37:50 AM »
Probly because it is true .  (that the when the left accuses other people of doing something, they're the ones already doing it....the art of projection)

Wow, Knute agrees with me.  I must be wrong     ;)

You got THAT right , Bubby. You are nearly always wrong . Go for a record!