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tyranny of the gotcha moment
« on: April 14, 2007, 09:46:47 AM »
'Scalping' Standards For The Blogosphere?
In the aftermath of the first blog scandal of Campaign 2008, Lindsay Beyerstein of Majikthise accused Republican bloggers of "scalping" her fellow feminists, Amanda Marcotte of Pandagon and Melissa McEwan Of Shakespeare's Sister.

The scalping term surfaced again this week after CBS Radio fired shock jock Don Imus over allegedly racist and sexist comments he made about the Rutgers University women's basketball team. Jeff Jarvis of PrezVid wondered whether people need to be more forgiving of mistakes in an era of "ubiquitous video."

"[M]y fear is that as we see more of each other in ubiquitous video ubiquitously played, we will see more moments of humanity -- that is, screw-ups -- and so we need to decide, rationally, what deserves a scalping and what does not. And we should not be held at the hands of ransom demands from our publicity-crazed, self-appointed guardians of righteousness ... who will hold a press conference and demand a firing if they can get airtime or money out of it."

How true, how true -- and for the blogosphere, too.

In my years of blog-watching, I have been amazed at how quickly today's online watchdogs are to drop the f-word. I'm not talking about the one banned on the airwaves by the FCC; I'm talking about the one spelled f-i-r-e-d, or its face-saving sister, r-e-s-i-g-n. Nary a scandal, real or imagined, goes by without some blogger on the right or the left demanding that so-and-so resign or be fired if he refuses to go quietly.

As Jarvis said, sometimes it's justified. "Imus? Good riddance. Sen. George Allen? Bye-bye now. Trent Lott? He got his proper drubbing. Those are deserved departures from center stage. These public figures were caught at their worst, being themselves, and so they got their justice."

But every controversy does not warrant a firing or a resignation, and demanding as much runs counter to another goal of many bloggers: candor and transparency in politics.

"They will mess up. They will say something in an unguarded moment," Jarvis noted. "Yet we want them to be unguarded. We want them to be human. So when they are human and they do mess up, we can’t demand their scalp for every screw-up.

"We have to judge whether this was merely a mistake or whether it revealed a fatal flaw in their character. And we need to be make that judgment ourselves, not under the threat and deadline of the press-conference piranha. We cannot run politics and the nation by the tyranny of the gotcha moment."

http://beltwayblogroll.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/scalping_standa.php


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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2007, 10:53:51 AM »
I don't get it.  The phenomenon of people in the public eye fucking up and being called to account is hardly new.  The recent examples recalled by the writer - - Trent Lott, Sen. Macacawitz, Don Imus - - he himself admits are well justified; and the only example he can dredge up of so-called excesses is the Lindsay Beyerstein/Amanda Marcotte/Melissa McEwan "scandal," which, frankly, I have never heard of.  Even if I HAD heard of it, is overreaction by some people on the fringes of some movements something new that we need to be warned of?

Maybe this is some kind of Republican National Committee stealth inoculation program, so the next time the administration fucks up (which, being the incompetent delusional fascist morons that they are, can't be long in coming) people will remember Lindsay Beyerstein (bwahahahahahaha) and stifle their intial burst of outrage.

 

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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2007, 01:17:48 PM »
The larger point being made seems to be that these instances seem to take on a life of their own, fans flamed by agenda driven pundits from all across the spectrum. And at internet speed the issue is no longer about the words issued by one man in one instance, in context or not, but more of a symbol of flaws in our national character and the only way to absolve our sins is to crucify the offender.

There is a swarm effect, blood in the water, feeding frenzy often times over proportional to the offense  and I'm not sure that that result is any better than the gotcha moment that started the thing in the first place

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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2007, 02:15:54 PM »
<< . . . and the only way to absolve our sins is to crucify the offender. >>

Once the offender and/or the offence enter a certain level of notoriety, the whole thing is irreversibly made into a symbolic pageant.  And the symbolic message of any response less than crucifixion is that racism is to some degree tolerable and understandable.  That's a message that no one can afford to send.  Imus should have known that.

<<There is  . . . feeding frenzy often times over-proportional to the offense>>

Well, the guy's only a commentator, so the maximum range of the offences he can commit is limited by his circumstances.  Although, theoretically, he could incite the same kind of blood-letting that radio commentators unleashed in Rwanda, practically speaking, about the worst thing he could do in real life in the U.S.A.  is about what he actually did.  So the guy really committed about the biggest offence he was able to commit, and the punishment should be the maximum punishment available in the circumstances, a severing of the relationship, a firing. 

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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2007, 02:29:55 PM »
This evolved into a pageant against racism and then devolved into making sure Imus got fired.

Why demand apologies if the end result was certain anyway?

or was the pageantry of the atonement symbolic too?


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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2007, 02:57:42 PM »
<<This evolved into a pageant against racism and then devolved into making sure Imus got fired. >>

Firing Imus was the climax of the pageant.

<<Why demand apologies if the end result was certain anyway?>>

The actors who demanded the apologies were not the actors who fired the villain.  "Pageant" shouldn't be taken too literally - - there's no single author or single director of this "pageant" - - it's kind of a free-form audience participation pageant but they all are taking part in something symbolic.  Different participants enter with different motives.  CBS for example had no choice.

<<or was the pageantry of the atonement symbolic too? >>

You'd have to ask Imus.  Personally, I think he was faking it.  He "atoned" at least once before.


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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2007, 04:26:08 PM »
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You'd have to ask Imus.  Personally, I think he was faking it.  He "atoned" at least once before.

My guess is it was sincere. He did meet with the Rutgers players and apologize personally. I believe Corzine was on his way to that same meeting when he got injured in that wreck.

In fact, paraphrasing his many statements, he said don't blame the feeding frenzy for this, blame me. If i hadn't screwed up, nothing that followed would have happened. All uttered prior to his being fired from MSNBC and the Radio Show.




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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2007, 07:29:11 PM »
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RIBERA, N.M. (AP) - Don Imus's banishment from the public airwaves also deprives him of a critical platform to raise money for the sprawling Imus Ranch, where children with cancer and other illnesses get a taste of the cowboy life.

Before he was fired last week for calling the Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos," Imus pointed to the northern New Mexico ranch to make his case that he is "a good person who said a bad thing."

With Imus out of a job, some wonder whether the pipeline to charity money will eventually dry up.

Just as corporate sponsors backed away from his radio show, "I think you'll see a similar effect on the charity, where the corporate donors will find a less hot-button charity to support," said Trent Stamp, president of Charity Navigator, a New Jersey-based charity watchdog group.

Imus said he and his wife Deirdre are round-the-clock surrogate parents to the youngsters who spend a week at the property, nearly half of whom are from minority groups and 10 percent are black.

"There's not an African-American parent on the planet who has sent their child to the Imus Ranch who didn't trust me and trust my wife," he said on his show. "And when these kids die, we don't just go to the white kid's funeral."

Kansas horseman Rob Phillips says he still plans to give the ranch proceeds from a 500-mile charity race he's staging this fall. But Phillips worries that without Imus's radio forum, the ranch and other charities will suffer.

"He had a capability to get on the air and raise a tremendous amount of money for these causes," Phillips said. "I don't see anybody else doing that."

Stamp said donations may increase in the short term because of the heightened attention - "the celebrity factor ratcheted up to a new level."

The Imus show's annual two-day fundraising radiothon, benefiting the ranch and two charities that refer children to it, had raised more than $2.3 million as of Friday, according to Deirdre Imus, who hosted Friday's show.

But in the long term, Stamp predicted the firing would cause "irreparable harm."

The ranch's list of contributors is not public information, but it has relied heavily on corporate contributions.

The Reader's Digest Foundation gave $1 million seven years ago, Imus has said, and American Express made a one-time, $250,000 donation nine years ago. Neither company is a contributor now, representatives said.

General Motors Corp. (GM) said Friday it would continue donating Chevrolet Suburbans for the ranch.

The Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey provides the doctors, nurses and "child life specialists" who attend every ranch session.

"While there is no excuse for these comments, we cannot overlook all of the good he has done for families of Bergen County and across the nation," the medical center said in a statement.

The nearly 4,000-acre ranch, at the foot of a mesa about 50 miles from Santa Fe, features a re-creation of the main street of a 19th-century Western town, a swimming pool, an indoor horse-riding arena, an outdoor rodeo arena, and barns.

Kids between 10 and 17 who have cancer or serious blood disorders, or who have lost siblings to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, spend seven days at the ranch - in the summer, when Imus would broadcast from a studio there - at no cost to their families.

They do daily chores, learn to ride and care for horses, and help feed cattle, sheep, buffalo, chickens, goats and donkeys.

They stay in the main ranch house, a 14,000-square-foot adobe hacienda that the Imuses describe as an "architectural masterpiece."

The menu is vegan: no meat, fish, poultry or dairy products are served.

It's an expensive operation. The ranch hosted 90 children from March 2005 through February 2006 and spent $2.5 million - or about $28,000 a child - according to its most recent federal tax filings.

That's at least 10 times what the Make-A-Wish or similar camps spend on kids, largely because the Imus operation is a year-round, working cattle ranch, Stamp said.

The ranch is at the edge of Ribera, one of a string of tiny villages along the Pecos River. Residents say the ranch closes itself off from the community, although Imus has given money to a local medical clinic and to a project to renovate a dilapidated school building into a community center - which he also publicly prodded Gov. Bill Richardson to support, calling him a "fat sissy" on the air.

Ignacio Lovato lives within a mile of the ranch but says he has never visited. "You can't go in there," said Lovato, who occasionally watched the Imus show.

"Sometimes he was kind of funny, and sometimes he would say things he shouldn't say," said Lovato, downing a hamburger in La Risa Cafe. "I really don't think he's a good person."

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Re: tyranny of the gotcha moment
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2007, 01:32:39 PM »
<<My guess is it was sincere. >>

Like my thoughts, only a guess.  You don't know and I don't know.

<<He did meet with the Rutgers players and apologize personally.>>

Proving nothing as far as sincerity is concerned.

<<I believe Corzine was on his way to that same meeting when he got injured in that wreck. >>

So if Imus hadn't have mouthed off, Corzine would be OK.  One more instance of the Law of Unintended Consequences, but I hope Corzine's family isn't inclined to take revenge.  They must be pretty powerful.

<<In fact, paraphrasing his many statements, he said don't blame the feeding frenzy for this, blame me. If i hadn't screwed up, nothing that followed would have happened. All uttered prior to his being fired from MSNBC and the Radio Show. >>

Well, I'm not going to deny that the man had excellent PR advice, which unfortunately (from his POV) wasn't enough to save his ass, but I think you 'd have to be extremely naive to think that anything Imus said or did AFTER the racist insults wasn't carefully crafted by experts to help keep his job.

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2007, 01:43:24 PM »
<<Before he was fired last week for calling the Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos," Imus pointed to the northern New Mexico ranch to make his case that he is "a good person who said a bad thing.">>

That's about the best spin that Imus could put on this thing, and it's pretty good.  I like what I read about the ranch, and not being an accountant, I can't tell what tax advantages Imus and his wife reap from it, but I would expect the benefits to be substantial.  Imus might still be a good person, regardless of the tax implications of the ranch (which the article doesn't even mention) but surely to God this is bigger than Don Imus.  Can a guy who says such things be permitted to continue on the MSM?  THAT'S the issue.

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2007, 02:21:20 PM »
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Corzine would be OK

Corzine would be much better off if he had worn a seatbelt. Which is a direct result of typical do what i say and not what i do executive privilege.

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2007, 03:27:10 PM »
<<Corzine would be much better off if he had worn a seatbelt. Which is a direct result of typical do what i say and not what i do executive privilege.>>

Amen to that.  It's sheer fucking stupidity not to wear a seatbelt.  Can't blame that on Imus.

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 01:54:05 AM »
Already they've had to remove some fluid build-up around one of Corzine's lungs.  Chest injuries are really painful.

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