I am having a problem with the LEFT wing media . . .

[Michael Tee]

It is starting to remind me of bleating, as from a sheep.  "Attack on Flotilla Violates International Law"  This kind of headline and the article that goes with it appear everywhere.  As does "World Outrage Mounts" and other garbage like it.  I admit, I have been guilty of the same kind of bleating in the past.

Nobody gives a shit about international law any more.  "Outrage" at maybe the first of the long string of Israeli atrocities might be an appropriate response, but when you get down to Israeli Atrocity No. 9,637, the "world outrage" is starting to wear a little thin.  Nobody gives a shit about world outrage any more than they give a shit about international law.

Similarly, Obama and the other world leaders' quotes:  "Obama Says Blockade Unsustainable," etc.  WHO GIVES A FUCK?  He will say whatever it is expedient for him to say.  Won't change a God-damn thing.  WHY are his fatuous remarks "news?"

I would like the left-wing press to ease up on their usual bullshit.  No more articles telling us how ILLEGAL the blockade is.  We KNOW it is illegal but that's totally irrelevant since nobody else seems to give a shit whether it's illegal or not.  Same with the "Outrage" and the "Obama Denounces" shit.

What we want to hear is BDS movement news - - REAL news, stuff that deals with practical, realistic measures we can take.  Where are the boycotts etc. taking place now, and how can we offer help to the boycott organizers?  WHAT is being boycotted and how is the boycott message being spread?  What are the most lucrative pressure points for a divestment campaign, Who's working on it now, and again, how can we help?  Sanctions I'm not so sure about - - how to convince government to begin sanctions proceedings against Israel?  (Frankly, in North America at least, I think sanctions are a lost cause.)  But the "BD" part of BDS seems viable and practical.  Where do we start?

[Kramer]

It is starting to remind me of bleating, as from a sheep.  "Attack on Flotilla Violates International Law"  This kind of headline and the article that goes with it appear everywhere.  As does "World Outrage Mounts" and other garbage like it.  I admit, I have been guilty of the same kind of bleating in the past.

Nobody gives a shit about international law any more.  "Outrage" at maybe the first of the long string of Israeli atrocities might be an appropriate response, but when you get down to Israeli Atrocity No. 9,637, the "world outrage" is starting to wear a little thin.  Nobody gives a shit about world outrage any more than they give a shit about international law.

Similarly, Obama and the other world leaders' quotes:  "Obama Says Blockade Unsustainable," etc.  WHO GIVES A FUCK?  He will say whatever it is expedient for him to say.  Won't change a God-damn thing.  WHY are his fatuous remarks "news?"

I would like the left-wing press to ease up on their usual bullshit.  No more articles telling us how ILLEGAL the blockade is.  We KNOW it is illegal but that's totally irrelevant since nobody else seems to give a shit whether it's illegal or not.  Same with the "Outrage" and the "Obama Denounces" shit.

What we want to hear is BDS movement news - - REAL news, stuff that deals with practical, realistic measures we can take.  Where are the boycotts etc. taking place now, and how can we offer help to the boycott organizers?  WHAT is being boycotted and how is the boycott message being spread?  What are the most lucrative pressure points for a divestment campaign, Who's working on it now, and again, how can we help?  Sanctions I'm not so sure about - - how to convince government to begin sanctions proceedings against Israel?  (Frankly, in North America at least, I think sanctions are a lost cause.)  But the "BD" part of BDS seems viable and practical.  Where do we start?

Mikey, wake up an smell the coffee, you are nothing more or less than a pawn, or better stated, a useful idiot to the left-wing press.

[Michael Tee]

The left-wing press is unaware of what it needs to inform people about.  Pointing out their deficiency does not make me their pawn.  I think the American people are pawns of the special interests.  But I also think that people like me CAN make a difference if there is some kind of left media cooperation and initiative.

[Kramer]

The left-wing press is unaware of what it needs to inform people about.  Pointing out their deficiency does not make me their pawn.  I think the American people are pawns of the special interests.  But I also think that people like me CAN make a difference if there is some kind of left media cooperation and initiative.

a novel idea would be an informative media, one not left or right, one that informs, unbiased news.

[kimba1]

unbiased news.

not really sure that`s possible today

[sirs]

The left-wing press is unaware of what it needs to inform people about.  Pointing out their deficiency does not make me their pawn.  I think the American people are pawns of the special interests.  But I also think that people like me CAN make a difference if there is some kind of left media cooperation and initiative.

You see Tee's form of "media" is to be an indoctrination organization.  It's not bad enough the overwhelming bias, that even he concdes is present.  It needs to actually become a Left wing/Socialist Advocate, mechanism.

Someone might want to ask him if he favors Government tax $$$'s to bail out said media comglomerates, like the NYTimes, from going under

[BT]

But I also think that people like me CAN make a difference if there is some kind of left media cooperation and initiative.

Why is your making a difference conditional on the left wing media.

Make a difference.

Be an Army of One.

Do your own research, find the pressure points that work for you, then fucking do it.

Otherwise you are no different than a million other folks who talk a good game but rarely play an inning.

[Michael Tee]

<<Be an Army of One>>

An army of one is a pretty inefficient army.  It can spend a lot of time re-inventing the wheel and it can spend time plowing a barren field when there's a more productive one over the next hill.  People have put a lot of time into BDS, I'm not interested in tracing their footsteps but in joining them in the current battle or helping plan their next campaign.

<<a novel idea would be an informative media, one not left or right, one that informs, unbiased news.>>

I've already eliminated the North American MSM from my reading list.  I figure truthout.org and antiwar.com and glenn greenwald tell the truth, but their fucking editorials are driving me nuts.  "Waaaaaaah, that was ILLEGAL!!!   Waaaahh, that was IMMORAL!!!"  Gimme a fucking break, you don't need to tell ME it's illegal and immoral, I need to know WTF I can DO about it, now.

[Plane]

I've already eliminated the North American MSM from my reading list.  I figure truthout.org and antiwar.com and glenn greenwald tell the truth, ......

Are you eliminateing the potential for ever finding out that you are wrong about anything?

[Michael Tee]

<<Are you eliminateing the potential for ever finding out that you are wrong about anything?>>

Of course not.  Why would you say that?  I always admit when I'm wrong.  It doesn't bother me.  If I'm wrong, I appreciate anyone who straightens me out.  From any part of the political spectrum.  Always have, always will.

[Plane]

<<Are you eliminateing the potential for ever finding out that you are wrong about anything?>>

Of course not.  Why would you say that?  I always admit when I'm wrong.  It doesn't bother me.  If I'm wrong, I appreciate anyone who straightens me out.  From any part of the political spectrum.  Always have, always will.

How do you examine the other POV?

[BT]

An army of one is a pretty inefficient army.

Tell that to Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Lech Walesa or any other individual who took action on their own.

[Kramer]

<<Be an Army of One>>

An army of one is a pretty inefficient army.  It can spend a lot of time re-inventing the wheel and it can spend time plowing a barren field when there's a more productive one over the next hill.  People have put a lot of time into BDS, I'm not interested in tracing their footsteps but in joining them in the current battle or helping plan their next campaign.

<<a novel idea would be an informative media, one not left or right, one that informs, unbiased news.>>

I've already eliminated the North American MSM from my reading list.  I figure truthout.org and antiwar.com and glenn greenwald tell the truth, but their fucking editorials are driving me nuts.  "Waaaaaaah, that was ILLEGAL!!!   Waaaahh, that was IMMORAL!!!"  Gimme a fucking break, you don't need to tell ME it's illegal and immoral, I need to know WTF I can DO about it, now.

An army of idiots elected Obama. Had each one on them done their homework Hillary or McCain would be president and Obama would still be voting present in the Senate.

[Plane]

An army of one is a pretty inefficient army.

Tell that to Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Lech Walesa or any other individual who took action on their own.

Each of these was the frount or the organiser of a small organisation on the grow.

[sirs]

It's far easier for folks like Tee to simply rant and rave from the upper bleachers.  You see them at every sporting event, ususally in the upper Left Field Pavilion, cussing at every pitch made by the opposing player