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kimba1

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Re: i predict holloween will be crazy boring in the future
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2016, 02:49:27 PM »
I just saw that article and couldn`t laugh hard enough.

i plane to distastefully use the term -Cultural appropriation to the fullest

isn`t rap sampling other music the very definition of Cultural appropriation.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2016, 06:29:15 PM »
I just saw that article and couldn`t laugh hard enough.



I am very pleased to see this!



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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2016, 10:49:42 PM »
Huge and overweight was definitely the "in" look for Hawaiian aristocracy. There is plenty of evidence at the Bishop Museum in Honolulu.
The kings and queens of Hawaii were  morbidly obese and that was deliberate.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: i predict holloween will be crazy boring in the future
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2016, 04:02:46 PM »
I read these folks bodies were basically desigm fir exteme activities so it makes sense the aristocracy would likely be obese since thier woukd be the most sedentary.
Remember these folks literally rowed all the way to hawaii

I remember talk about hunters who kill wild boat with thier barehands and folks will say thats bs but when i say thier samoan they always say nevermind.

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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2016, 04:31:42 PM »
The idea was that the most important person should be the BIGGEST person. This was a part of many Polynesian societies.
The Hawaiian royals ate for hours and had special servants that massaged their tummies so they could put away even more food.

Samoans have come to dominate Japanese Sumo wrestling. The Japanese Sumo purists tried to exclude them because they were not Japanese, but eventually they lost the battle. Now all the top Sumo wrestlers are Samoans. They are taller than Japanese, and therefore outweigh them. And in Sumo wrestling, weight is everything.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: i predict holloween will be crazy boring in the future
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 08:07:00 PM »
.....

I remember talk about hunters who kill wild boat with thier barehands and folks will say thats bs...
http://www.huntwildpig.com/5-best-hog-hunting-knives/

Yes it is a thing, but I don't feel the urge to be quite that sporting.


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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2016, 10:05:55 PM »
I think it's cheating when you go after the little ones

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qvDv8G2Qg

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2016, 07:05:57 AM »
I think it's cheating when you go after the little ones

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qvDv8G2Qg

I knew a guy who was delighted to find small ones in his traps.

These he would bring home and feed corn with molasses until he judged them fat and sweet.

Just like a farm pig .

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2016, 12:10:38 PM »
The brouhaha about Disney portraying a Hawaiian VIP as huge seems to seems to indicate that today's Hawaiians are torn between the ancient culture in which obesity was a positive thing and a sign of wealth, importance and aristocracy, and the mainland culture, which regards is as a mark of poverty and unstylishness.

Take the greatly respected singer called "Iz, who was probably the hugest celebrity of his time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2016, 09:24:46 PM »
The brouhaha about Disney portraying a Hawaiian VIP as huge seems to seems to indicate that today's Hawaiians are torn between the ancient culture in which obesity was a positive thing and a sign of wealth, importance and aristocracy, and the mainland culture, which regards is as a mark of poverty and unstylishness.

Take the greatly respected singer called "Iz, who was probably the hugest celebrity of his time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I


Yes!

Well put!

...... , who exactly gets to decide whether the offense needs to be against modern American sensibilities or elder and indigenous sensibilities?

Sometimes the combination does not make sense.

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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2016, 09:34:41 AM »
Disney is crass and often engages in subtle moneygrubbing. They go out of their way to enhance profits. The drinking fountains at Disney parks are rather well concealed near the restroom doors. This is done to cause the public to pay $2.00 or more for drinks.

But I cannot really fault Disney for portraying a Hawaiian king figure as huge and obese, because Hawaiian nobility were deliberately huge and obese. It is the nature of the art of cartooning to exaggerate the outstanding features of the subjects. Had that portrayed the Hawaiian nobility as Charles Atlas types, that would have also resulted in criticism.

Should anyone venture to the famous Hula Bowl Flea Market in Honolulu, they are sure to note that the Hawaiian and other Polynesian locals are not at all the svelte Duke Kahanamoku  types.
It is, by the way, a great place to shop and chat with the locals. Everyone in Honolulu is quite friendly.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Kahanamoku
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."