Marriage is now allowed for gays in Florida.

[Christians4LessGvt]

You have to be born to be a human being.

So if the baby is inside the Mother at 8PM it has no rights.
But if the baby is delivered via C-section at 8:05PM it has full rights?
Killable at 8:00 PM
Not Killable at 8:05 PM
Yeah sure Boss!

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yeah, that is the way it should be.

I am not for or against abortions, I just think that a women has a greater right than some schmuck like you acting through the government to do what she deems in her best interest.

It is pretty damn simple, really. Why do you think you have a right to tell anyone anything what they can do with their own life? 

[sirs]

You have to be born to be a human being.

So if the baby is inside the Mother at 8PM it has no rights.
But if the baby is delivered via C-section at 8:05PM it has full rights?
Killable at 8:00 PM
Not Killable at 8:05 PM

Yeah, that is the way it should be.

Wow......just wanted everyone to see that revelation

[Xavier_Onassis]

It would be great some divine force impregnated you and CU4.  Really.

[sirs]

Then we'd be a woman.  And as a woman, I'd be responsible enough to not get pregnant, until I could financially support myself and my child

[Christians4LessGvt]

Wow......just wanted everyone to see that revelation

Ya see SIRS that's whats great about these message boards
you can follow up and follow up
until the utter ridiculous of the Leftist position finally emerges
this time the position is abortion is ok 5 minutes before birth!
Ha Ha Ha....now SIRS that is a BINGO!

[Xavier_Onassis]

This is not about WHEN an abortion should or should not take place.

It is about who decides. Are you so damn stupid you cannot understand this?

The decision is not up to the government or you or me.

[sirs]

Wow......just wanted everyone to see that revelation

Ya see SIRS that's whats great about these message boards
you can follow up and follow up
until the utter ridiculous of the Leftist position finally emerges
this time the position is abortion is ok 5 minutes before birth!
Ha Ha Ha....now SIRS that is a BINGO!

Indeed.......we can refer to this as the Gruber Phenomenon or Event.....where the position of the hard core left, actually comes to its realistic public fruition, despite the layers upon layers of obfuscation and deflection, that proceeded the event   

[sirs]

This is not about WHEN an abortion should or should not take place.

It absolutely IS.  One more time, this has bever been about some damn pro-choice / anti-choice issue.  A woman can choose ANY DAMN THING SHE WANTS........OUTSIDE OF TAKING THE LIFE OF AN INNOCENT UNBORN CHILD WHO HAS NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER. 

So yes, its all about abortion, and when it takes place.  Thank you again for your Gruber-like revelation for highlighting what it truly boils down to

[Xavier_Onassis]

And one more time, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN INNOCENT UNBORN CHILD.

Any wealthy woman who wants an abortion can get one, if not in the US, somewhere. Al;l you want to do is to prevent poor women from doing what any rich woman can do.

And again. there is no reason why any government needs to ban anything. It is not the government's decision. Nowhere in the Constitution is this mentioned.,

[sirs]

Your rationalizations aside, there absolutely is such a thing as an unborn child.  Besides the biological fact of he or she's presence, ask any mother, who's 8 months pregnant.  Let me know if they respond..."ahh, yes, I have a wonderful little female fetus"     

[Plane]

And one more time, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN INNOCENT UNBORN CHILD.

  This is kind of a weird thing to say.

[Xavier_Onassis]

According to Christian doctrine, we are all born in original sin, so forget the innocent part.

Any fool can tell a child from a fetus.  You cannot see a fetus without an x ray or some other device.

A fetus is a potential child, just as an egg might be a potential chicken.

It is none of anyone's beeswax what a woman wants to do with her own body.

[sirs]

Innocent in the context its being used, is't about sin......its about not having committed any acts.  Then again, you knew that, simply was a deflection effort on your part.  And a fetus is merely a medical term....FOR AN UNBORN CHILD. 

It's none of anyone's beeswax to harm an unborn child's own body

[Plane]

   I am afraid that this is a common American attitude , a killing that you don't have to look at is not seriously a killing.

     Killing a baby the day before it is born is killing a baby and killing an enemy with a remote control device is an act of war. But if it is done out of sight , we need not take it seriously.

     A human being alive is the primary thing that law should be protecting, but it isn't particularly good at it.

    As far as I know there isn't much of a definition of "person" or "human being " for the law to use.

According to Christian doctrine, we are all born in original sin, so forget the innocent part.

Any fool can tell a child from a fetus.  You cannot see a fetus without an x ray or some other device ....

So the difference in abortion and infanticide is seeing .

A human being you can't see is not a human being.

I don't agree and I think some of the people who are playing catch to our hellfire missiles don't agree.

We may have to do something , but we should take it seriously, it isn't less than an act of war to kill from a distance and it isn't less than killing to kill in the dark.