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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on March 29, 2016, 11:01:11 PM

Title: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 29, 2016, 11:01:11 PM
http://cabotgun.com/oak-collection/the-cosmos-1911/

http://cabotgun.com/2015/12/cabot-meteorite-pistol-set/


Yes , pretty .

Worth the price?

Not to me , I would just as soon have a meteorite un-modified and a pistol made with scandium.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 30, 2016, 09:33:18 AM
There is one born every minute.  I am sure they will make a bundle on this.  The ideal gun for saps that pay 90K for the notoriously unreliable Range Rovers.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 30, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
There is a line somewhere at which the thing is less a tool or weapon and becomes more a work of art.

The dollar value of this work of art could buy a thousand more practical guns.

I think you have to have a romantic notion about the art, and too much money.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Guns are tools, as you say.

I fail to see why you think I have demonstrated any romantic notions here,
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 31, 2016, 05:08:20 AM
There is a line somewhere at which the thing is less a tool or weapon and becomes more a work of art.

The dollar value of this work of art could buy a thousand more practical guns.

I think you have to have a romantic notion about the art, and too much money.
Guns are tools, as you say.

I fail to see why you think I have demonstrated any romantic notions here,

My apologies .
I can see how you might see "you" as meaning you.

But I didn't mean to direct this at you.
If "you" is understood more generically, then this is a statement directed twards the prospective buyer.
Which person is definitely not you!

I should have said that to buy this one must have a romantic notion twards this gun and value the art of it above all utility.

This ambiguity is my fault.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 31, 2016, 08:05:43 AM
I would prefer an artistic table lamp or footstool to an artistic gun.

I rather like steam punk keyboards, but not enough to actually buy one.

I found a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard of the type you plug in that does not require batteries last Saturday at a yard sale for two bucks. I loaded the software, and it works fine. The previous owner said that her new computer came with a wireless version and that this one did not work with it. For $2 who was I to argue?

My previous keyboard has three letters worn off: a. e and s. 
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 31, 2016, 10:04:03 PM
Widmanstätten pattern is good looking, but it would be a good looking lamp or bookend.
I think I do prefer a utilitarian weapon, or tool.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern
By kevinzim / Kevin Walsh - widman, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2572757
By Jstuby - photographed myself, CC0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=47555564
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern_Staunton_meteorite.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern_kevinzim.jpg/800px-Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern_kevinzim.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 31, 2016, 10:15:49 PM
I find it amusing that the car magazines go ape over "carbon fiber" parts. True, they are light and strong, but not particularly beautiful as a rule.. Essentially, they are carbon strands stuck together with "resin" which is just a fancy name for plastic.


I can't see paying $20K more for a car because of it having a carbon fiber hood or trunk lid. But to each his own,
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 31, 2016, 11:23:36 PM
Carbon fiber prices are bound to come down, as the technology matures and the equipment becomes more common.

Then making all of our Cars , Trucks and aircraft lighter, will pay back.

I think this is already in progress.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 31, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
I don't think I am opposed to carbon fiber. Just to paying $20K extra for it.

I bet steel and aluminum are easier to recycle.
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Plane on March 31, 2016, 11:47:40 PM
Yes Steel and aluminum are easily recycled but Fiberglass or Carbon fiber reinforced plastic are not recycled at all.

However , if a vehicle is made significantly lighter , it takes less fuel to get it up to speed, so there is an environmental benefit .
Title: Re: Cabot bought a meteorite
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 31, 2016, 11:59:08 PM
Then when it is scrapped, it goes into Mt Trashmore.

We shall see what happens, So far, it is too expensive. I do not know why.