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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on September 18, 2014, 07:15:47 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kMpqQBdNs#t=40
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Time for a RACE WAR!
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Time for a RACE WAR!
No it's time to let Islamo immigrants come in to France and
attack whites so that goof-ball leftists say it's time for a RACE WAR!
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I think I will let the French handle their own problems.
This is an example of an exaggeration typical of the Muslim haters, and again, to the degree it is a problem, it is a FRENCH problem. The French brought this on themselves when they annexed Algeria and pretended it was a province of France for about 90 years. Most of the people responsible for this are dead by now.
But France is capable of resolving its own problems.
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so bozo we should never speak or discuss another country
because "they are capable" of handling their own problems?
your aversion to address a topic instead preferring to always change the subject is pathetic
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The thing is, you do not know French, have never been to France, and so discussing this with you would be a waste of time.
The French have a democratic system, with many more parties than the US, and the French are perfectly capable of running France. I imagine that they do not actually NEED some know iot all from Dallas telling them that they much panic and expel the Muslims from their country.
I HAVE been to France and DO speak French, and actually, stayed in the 21 Arrondissement in Paris where my ex-girlfriend's retired brother lived. He lived in a fairly small house surrounded by apartment buildings. Most of the tenants in the apartment buildings were Maghrebis, which means "Westerner" in Arabic, since they are from West of Mecca and are actually Tunisians, Algerians and Moroccans. I visited there in 2003. It was in late December and was colder than I have ever been. The Sun went down around 4:30 PM. The buildings were gray and gloomy, with some graffiti in both Arabic and French. We saw a lot of Algerians, who I suppose were Muslims, on the subway. Only a few women were wearing scarves of the Muslim sort, but it was cold and everyone was wearing something on their heads.
I encountered no problems with anyone. One hotel we stayed at was run by a very short Chinese woman, who insisted we pay in advance, which is not the custom in France, where one pays when one leaves. We had couscous in an Algerian restaurant, since my ex girlfriend was a widow and her deceased husband was a pied noir, that is, a European (he was French-Italian) who lived in Algeria, and she insisted that I try the couscous, which is a Moroccan dish made with wheat. It was indeed delicious. The staff in the restaurant were Moroccan, and very attentive.
We flew out of Paris on New Years Eve, 2003. The night before we stayed at the Hotel des Belges, near the Gar de'Est, the railroad station, where we could get to De Gaulle Airport. The Hotel des Belges was not run by Belgians, but by some Turks. There was no heat, and the room was barely above freezing. There were lots of blankets.
I highly recommend France as a really great place to visit. It is not, however, advisable to visit Paris around Christmas because it is very, very cold. Actually 2003 was a record cold year. We also stayed at a country inn owned by her ex-husband's brother and his wife, it was near Pau, in the foothills of the Pyrenees. The Inn was called le Tire-bouchon, which means the Corckscrew. It was in a town so tiny the priest said mass there only once a month. We met Monsieur Le Maire (the mayor) picking up trash that inconsiderate citizens had strewn around the town dumpster. He said he thought they transgressors were swine, but was very friendly.
There were two things people could do in this town in the winter: stay at home and watch TV or go to le Tire-bouchon and smoke and drink. I met a lot of interesting people. There were no Muslims in that part of France.
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Notice how it always seems to be a "waste of time" to discuss anything with the Professor.....in particular where the other person isn't in lock-step agreement with his position.
Can't be bothered with backing up claims
Can't be bothered to support his conclusions.
Can't be bothered to provide any links.
.....it's all just a waste of time, because he just knows better, and....its all Bush's fault, Republicans are racist, and Conservatives are simply evil......end of story, declare victory, hit enter.
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You seem to be catching on.
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LOL....I rest my case 8)
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The thing is, you do not know French, have never been to France,..................
No...... but this complaint is not originating with us. Do you think that this article is so exaggerated that there is not real problem?
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I believe that the article is grossly exaggerated.
The French are capable of dealing with this: the Muslims are not taking over France, that is absurd.
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The thing is, you do not know French, have never been to France, and so discussing this with you would be a waste of time.
And you have never been to Libya but we have discussed our involvement in Libya.
You have two sets of rules....
When you want to discuss something you do not come up with these lame-ass illogical arguments.
If every poster would have had to have visited a locale to be able to discuss it, we could hardly discuss anything.
Have you ever been to Israel? Has everyone in 3DHS been to Israel?
Under your crazy logic then we should not discuss Israel and it's huge impact on world events.
One does not need to jump off the top of the Empire State Building to discuss how bad of an idea it is.
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That tactic has been used many a time before, C. Ususally applied when there's no logical response to be made, or credible ability to refute the point being made. Tactic was used in the past by another poster, as it relates to military actions....that if not in the military, one couldn't rationally comment on their actions or tactics.
I could employ the same tactic with healthcare, in that I'm a healthcare professional, intimate with the current goings on with the new healthcare mandates, inefficiency, & bureacracy. Have I ever proclaimed that anyone else not in the healthcare field, that it would be a waste of time for me to address any issues/questions/criticisms brought up, specific to Obamacare, or even healthcare in general?? Of course not...that'd be a lame & transparent dodge, ..... and they'd be right
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Happening in Great Britain too.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0XTvuRycY
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we stayed at the Hotel des Belges, near the Gar de'Est, the railroad station, where we could get to De Gaulle Airport. The Hotel des Belges was not run by Belgians, but by some Turks. There was no heat, and the room was barely above freezing. There were lots of blankets.
why do you stay in such dumps?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d3646449-Reviews-Hotel_des_Belges-Paris_Ile_de_France.html
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We spent some time with my girlfriend's brother, and it was about 10:30 when we got to the Gare du Nord.
We were planning to leave at 7 AM and did not want to schlep bags around.
It was pretty clean and not a dump at all, and it was cheap. Unlike you, I am not some sort of candyass tourist.
The only problem was that it was very, very cold. It was much colder than normal.
]I have stayed in far worse and cheaper places.
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Ha Ha...@ XO --->you are funny sometimes.
If it is freezing and the hotel has "no heat" as you stated
you don't have to be a "candyass tourist" to realize it is probably a dump.
But I can understand it being late & you wanting a place to rest for just a few hours.
BTW...while on vacation I prefer to be pampered...that's why I call it a "vacation"
but a new Holiday Inn Express will do me just fine sometimes.
I am a TripAdvisor hotel review freak......2EachHisOwn.
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The Hotel des Belges must have had some heat, as the water in the toilet was not frozen. Outside it was below zero. Insiude it may have been around 40ºF.
Where I go, the places that have websites are all priced at about double those that do not. This is not true of hotels in developed countries. No one makes reservations in Latin America except tourists and people visiting during carnaval, Semana Santa and Christmas. Motel Six is my idea of as much luxury as I need.
I hate being pampered. I do not like people grabbing my suitcase.
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My favorite hotel in the world...thus far:
The Bellagio - Las Vegas
(http://s1.postimg.org/a6ac85pm7/bellagio_las_night.jpg)
My second favorite hotel:
The Hermitage Hotel - Nashville
(http://images.gactv.com/packages/2012/travel-guide/images/nashville/hermitage-hotel.jpg)
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I would NEVER, EVER stay in a hideous multistory joint like that. Too damned dangerous, too damned expensive.
Nor do I ever plan to visit Vegas. I hate wretched excess, and Vegas is the world capital of wretched excess.
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I am not much of a gambler, but enjoy a trip to Vegas to be pampered, see a concert,
enjoy a show, maybe play a few slot machines, and do some people watching.
The Bellagio is a beautiful hotel, with a beautiful pool, great dining, and a magnificent
water fountain display that can be seen from many of the rooms. At night it is very special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrs9RM0kI0A
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Ugh.
To each his own.
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I would NEVER, EVER stay in a hideous multistory joint like that. Too damned dangerous,
dangerous?
how so?
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Imagine a fire in one of those monstrosities. The elevators do not work.
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Besides the probable latest in up to date sprinkler system, a fire is going to be localized to the immediate area it started. As long as you aren't locked in the room where the fire is, everyone should be just fine
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Imagine a fire in one of those monstrosities. The elevators do not work.
XO you can't be serious?
Large modern buildings and hotels have fire sprinklers, fire stairwells, and fire resistant materials.
How many people in the last 10 years have died in tall hotel building fires in Las Vegas?
I mean sure anything can happen....planes crash....so do cars...trains....and buses.
I would think the chance of being robbed, mugged, or worse at dumpy hotels is more likely than fire at the Bellagio
There are skyscraper hotels full of guests 365 days a year all over the world in every major city.
How often do you see them fully engulfed in flames with massive casualties?
I doubt fire is a realistic significant danger to guests that stay at tall multi-story hotels
If you added up all the guests vs ones that die in towering infernos...it would be minuscule.
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It's kind of like the school shooting mindset....how rare they are, but when they happen, in their mind, its happening "all the time", which is why the need to take everyone's guns away.......except of course the bad guys, who generally have already gotten their gun illegally
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I will not be staying in any damned multistory hotel, safe or not.
That would cost four times what any normal place would charge, and I detest wretched excess.
No thanks, I would not stay in such a place for free.
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I like vegas and it`s excesses. it`s a place to see a lot of stuff in one place. I like travelling but vegas is convient.
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It is a matter of taste.
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I will not be staying in any damned multistory hotel, safe or not.
That would cost four times what any normal place would charge, and I detest wretched excess.
No thanks, I would not stay in such a place for free.
Xo, no one is trying to make you stay at a 4/5 star resort. No one is even trying to talk you into it. You stay whever you want. The issue is when you carelessly claim how unsafe they are. Perhaps in a 9.1 earthquake, or if a jetliner ran into it, it wouldn'd be too safe. But neither would your 1 star minimal heating, no service, little hole-on-the-wall.
Point being if you don't like those places like the Belagio, just be up front and honestly say you don't like them.....just not your cup of tea. You don't even need to give a reason why. But don't just make up stuff, to try and make it appear what a bad choice it is for someone else. As you said, its not so much a matter of safety, as much as its a matter of taste
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I like vegas and it`s excesses. it`s a place to see a lot of stuff in one place. I like travelling but vegas is convient.
me2 Kimba....Vegas is somewhere I go every 3-4 years.
I don't really gamble....except a few slot machines.
kind of nice getting free drinks while playing the slots
bring me another SoCo please! 8)
I like watching multiple games in the big sports book rooms
i think vegas is just a cool place to visit...relax, eat, drink, see some shows.
i never stay very long...maybe 3-4 days
i was amazed at the "scenery" at the Bellagio pools....good heavens!
i like New Orleans for short trips too
i love a little boutique hotel in Hermosa Beach, California as well
i can land at LAX and be at the hotel in like 15-18 mins
walking "the strand" sitting on my balcony sipping a Corona
i may go to Ireland next summer....but I hate long plane rides
we'll see
I have a cousin in the France countryside...she teaches english....that invites me over
but again that long ass plane ride raises my anxiety a bit
plus I hear the French are not very southern!
again we'll see
i'd like to go to the Florida Keys, Washington DC, Civil War Battleground tour,
jezzz i gots to get moving! ....lol
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For me, Vegas is a great place to visit, but I sure wouldn't want to live there. Similar to Frisco & DC. Don't need all the bells & whistles, but a minimum of 3+ stars
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I've only recently been to europe and the flight and the cost is the least favorite thing. I can do more with my money in vegas than europe. But europe has things that just don't exist here. One of the funniest thing in germnany is eating in a american theme restaurant and not recognizing any of the food. I only eat there because its the only place that serves food at 3pm . We didnt know restaurants dont open all day like america. Breakfast there starts at 9am
Sofar the only place i want to never leave is hawaii
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If it weren't for the obnoxious cost of living there, I'd be on board with you Kimba
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I am totally clueless how to live there but willing to try if given a chance. Honolulu was my least favorite since it was more modern and trendy mallish than back home. But it had a din sum restaurant so it's forgiveable and they speak cantonese
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Completely concur with Honolulu. I'd be much happier on Maui, anything along the west coast, especially the southwest area of Makena. Big Island would also be a great residential island, with as much geological diversity that it has
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I only eat there because its the only place that serves food at 3pm .
We didnt know restaurants dont open all day like america. Breakfast there starts at 9am
Kimba same thing happened to a friend of mine
he checked into his hotel in Germany at like 9PM
asked the bellhop where he could grab dinner close-by
he said the bell-hop looked at him like he was crazy
and said "sir it is too late this evening most places are closing"
that was several years ago...maybe they've changed now
you would think with all the American soldiers there that
Germany would have got with the program! Jezzzzz
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nope. I was there November so it`s not happening. obviously not enough americans to make a dent.
maui is the warmest island so things go a lot slower there. nobody moves fast . very calmimg
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Honolulu has a wonderful climate. I think that the Big Island would be a better place to live, though: Oahu is very crowded.
The best time to visit Honolulu is Hallowe'en. It looks like half of Japan comes to dress up in all manner of costumes and walk around Waikiki. More Sailor Moons, Marios Luigis and guys dressed like Death than you can imagine. I have also seen at least a couple of total starkers wearing birthday suits and perhaps a few pieces of Saran Wrap. I would say that there will be at least 40,000 costumed people and more than a few costumed dogs strolling about in various states of inebriation.
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My favorite travel is going on business.
Per dium covers a lot and widens my choice of hotel.
I have had some good experiences with State parks , especially when I have rented a cabin.
Someday I might visit Hawaii, but it will have to be on business, fortunately this is entirely possible.
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ohh
it really is easy to spot the Japanese tourist. they really do wear those business suits and totally stand out from everybody else.
I once went on a business trip and it is totally fun to travel on the companies dime. I ate like shameless glutenous pig and loved it. no question about it
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Quito, Cuenca and Vilcabamba, Ecuador also have great climates and scenery.
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I check it out if it`s not strenuous . the hard part about travel is getting finding out what`s safe or not. way too many people believe climbing a pyramid is easy for the invalid to do.
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It all depends on the pyramid. I don't think they allow you to climb the Egyptian ones.
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I don't think they allow you to climb the Egyptian ones.
Some moron Russians did and later apologized.
http://i.imgur.com/OZURrAX.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/travel/russian-photographer-apology/
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The largest pyramid, I believe is the Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan, North of Mexico City. I have climbed it twice, and it is quite a tiring climb. I have seen lots of people get part of the way up, shake their heads and go back down. The steps are about a foot high each. One cannot perform this climb wearing rapster pants.
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I`m try togo places that is physically not strenuous. but I find way too many people thinking all places are safe for that. simply not true. not going Thailand due to the heat somehow people don`t understand that.
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You can certainly admire the Pyramids in Mexico without climbing them.
There is a great museum at Teotihuacan that is very impressive.
And there is also the Pyramid of the Moon for those who find the other one challenging. And lots of other ruins as well. At night, there is a light show.
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XO do ever get sick (stomach issues) with the all travel you do?
I got sicker than hell in Jamaica the one time I ate off the resort.
I took some river cruise and ate some fresh fruit & some other items
and the next day I had the screamin squirts that lasted the rest of my trip.
Another guy in our party got sick too...
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001579267/135813158_magazine_two_toilets_small_93288_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg)
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travelling is not for the weak. the very reason I`m very picky where i go. just getting there is rough enough without worrying about the other details.
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I have never stayed in any AI resort in my life. I'd as soon visit Disneyland.
I got a really awful case of amoebic dysentery in Tamazunchale, Tamps. driving down to Mexico City once.
I also ate some bad chicharrones in Juan Dolio, RD that took away my appetite for ten days. This was caused by some parasite. No more chicharrones for me. Mexicans cook them a lot better.
As a rule, for all diarrhea, I immediately take something. For respiratory things, I see a doctor after three days. For diarrhea, a lot of medicines kill all the biota in your stomach, and then you can't digest properly, so the diarrhea symptom is still with you, but for another reason. The cure is to eat local yoghurt three times a day. There is a Swedish tablet that restores the beneficial digestive bacteria even more rapidly.
In the US, stupid laws make it impossible to buy anything that will cure you without a prescription. In Latin American counties, you can buy all the antibiotics and cold medicine you wish if you have the money. Pharmacists can be very helpful art diagnosing respiratory and stomach problems. In the DR, the local hospital will diagnose you for free, but you have to pay for the medicine. The medicine is price controlled, however, so you do not have to pay the same exorbitant prices as you do in the US (unless you have Medicare).
I lived in Mexico for over three years total, and after a while, I never got ill more than in the US. Of course, if you ride a bus daily you will come in contact with several hundred people that you would not in the US. This makes you more prone to get ill at first, and much more resistant when you return to the US.
I have heard from several people that a visit to Japan, a very clean country, will still cause Americans to contract respiratory diseases that they have never come in contact with before.
Always peel fruit carefully, and avoid salad.
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salad?
I got the worst case of diarrhea from eating a salad. I later learned most cases of food poisoning are from eating vegetables. vegetables has such a high rep for being healthy to eat that people skip cleaning them.
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It is hard to remove bacteria from fresh veggies even if you clean them. Luckily, you do not have to kill or remove them all, just a critical mass of them.
I use a spray, then I rinse them off, and rarely have problems, though.
Restaurants should do this, but don't.
The problem is worse in the tropics, because bacteria grow more rapidly.
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I know people who refuse to clean fruit picked up from the ground saying it`s organic. that family is not doing well for various reason right now
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They are right, it is organic. The organisms in that fruit are quite happy to multiply in their stomachs.
Not everything organic is good for you.
A raw uncooked rat would be organic. Flies are organic. All bacteria are organic.
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I`m trying to tie in this gluten free-organically grown food trend with the sudden interest with zombies and it`s starting to work. lets just say we really nned to stock up on canned foods at home.
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There are no actual zombies.
I am not sure of what dangers are posed by gluten, either.
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some people have a fatal reaction to gluten and some other has a minor reaction to it and it recently spur a trend that all gluten should be banned .for some reason vegans embraced to gluten free lifestyle and has pushed for everybody else to follow. I find this trend very strange since the bulk of Chinese vegetarian food is gluten based. I litterally eat gluten out of the can. it`s used as a meat substitute.
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I once stayed at Tzavo park in Kenya.
Spent two nights in two different lodges , the rooms were small and simple but clean and comfortable, during the day we were driven all over the park by some very brave drivers, too brave sometimes.
I had a great time and would like to do the same again, the animals are spectacular , even seen from a roofless van.
Once one of the lodges was featured on "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" which I thought was really funny, but probably a good recommendation .
Then just a few years ago I read "A Primates Journal" which is a very entertaining work of non-fiction. But halfway in was the revelation that one of these lodges was buying tainted meat.
I might not have been at the same one , I didn't get sick , but I had a new feeling about how much I was trusting hotel cooks I never met.
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That just makes me more careful
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Very few people will die if they eat gluten. The adversion to it sounds more like a fad.
Meat will often be safe to eat even if spoiled, if it is well cooked. The Eskimos call it "stink meat"
But again, the Eskimos do not tend to live as long as non-Eskimos.
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Eskimos has a very specific non varied diet of whatever they can eat in that area. So eating rotting meat will not be too much of an issue. But i have eaten rotten meat and no matter how much you sterilize it with the microwave it just doesn't help the taste. College life has it's challenge. Week old raw chicken then into the fryer is delicious. Very moist. But sometimes you get very sick. My upbring had me ingest alot of spoiled meat in my life. Lets just say if botulism ever breakout here I will survive.
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Taste and nutrition are not the same things.
The custom of the English was to gut a quail or other game bird and let it "age" to improve the taste and texture. I cannot say that I know anything about taste and texture.
Until fairly recently, groceries advertised that they sold "aged" beef.
I think you need to cook something pretty well to kill all the bacteria. In addition, the actions of some bacteria before they are killed bhe heat of cooking can produce some toxins that are surely not good for you.
We must assume that for several thousands of years, humans ate only raw meat. There are no examples of gorillas, orangs, chimps or binabos cooking their meat, or washing their hands with soap and water.
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I say it's quite taste but texture thats improve by ageing the bird. Much more tender. I've had aged beef and texture is pretty improved but i was told i ate a bad batch so the taste wasn't that great.
I would guess our immune system was much better in the past so eating raw food was much less a problem. I know people who eat raw meat and it's more a novelty than taste that makes them eat it. Cooked food simply taste better.
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We must assume that for several thousands of years, humans ate only raw meat.
yeah and their life-spans sucked
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I know that cooked meat tastes a lot better to me. I think this is true for most people.
I never eat raw meat, other than sushi, which is seafood, and not much of that.
As for the lifespans of people before the use of fire, I don't think that the length of their lives is actually known. That was a very, very long time ago, Without fire, surely more froze to death. We only have a few bits of bone from such people. Fire is also helpful in avoiding being eaten by hyenas and other creatures.
All Mother Nature cares about is that humans live long enough to reproduce, and pass along the DNA. Evolution does not care about people after theyhave passed the usual childbearing age.
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I agree also xo ,it's more like live long enough for the kids to get out of the cave . It's very doubtful they dont worry about getting eaten. Hell ,eskimos are rumors to leave there old out in the snow so lifespan is likely unknown on that part also.
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Eskimos these days live in the US, Canada and Greenland, and all are to some degree given medical support and housing. The scene where the old grandmother, toothless from chewing hides to make them supple enough to make parkas out of, is left on an ice flow to drift away was in the film Nanook of the North, made in 1922 about some Canadian Eskimos, but based on real life observations of Mounties back in the early 1900's.
I don't think elderly toothless Eskimos are left out on the ice any more. They are given false teeth via Medicaid and a place to stay in Old Folks homes.
We know how long people lived if we have their bones and the remains of their dwellings to analyze. It is fairly easy to detect signs of scurvy, goiter, rickets and other dietary diseases, as well as evidence of cannibalism. But it is very =unusual to find the bones and dwellings of those who lived before people had fire. It is likely that all the Indians had fire before they got to the US. Asia and Africa would be where really ancient bones could be found.