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Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:48:14 PM »
Yeah, sure, she wore bread bags on her feet to save her "good shoes". Well, that was not because of poverty, it was because bread bags are the best way to protect your shoes if you walk in deep snow. Beoing from Missouri,. I did not find that impressive.

And what about ethanol subsidies? They are the biggest boondoggle in decades: her farm family gets plenty of that money, too.


Living within their means? Family of Senator Joni Ernst received $460,000 in federal aid

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Joni Ernst, delivering the Republican response to President Obama's State of the Union address
That $460,000 buys a lot of bread bags.
Senator Joni Ernst, the newly elected senator from Iowa, gave the Republican response to President Obama's State of the Union address on Tuesday. In her response, she spoke glowingly of her family's humble beginnings:

    They had very little to call their own except the sweat on their brow and the dirt on their hands. But they worked, they sacrificed, and they dreamed big dreams for their children and grandchildren.

    And because they did, an ordinary Iowan like me has had some truly extraordinary opportunities because they showed me that you don’t need to come from wealth or privilege to make a difference. You just need the freedom to dream big, and a whole lot of hard work.

To be clear, there can be no doubt farmers work hard. It's a work day that really never ends. But what Joni Ernst failed to mention is that her family did not succeed alone. They had a whole lot of federal help along the way:

    Ernst’s father, Richard Culver, was given $14,705 in conservation payments and $23,690 in commodity subsidies by the federal government–with all but twelve dollars allocated for corn support. Richard’s brother, Dallas Culver, benefited from $367,141 in federal agricultural aid, with over $250,000 geared toward corn subsidies. And the brothers’ late grandfather Harold Culver received $57,479 from Washington—again, mostly corn subsidies—between 1995 and 2001. He passed away in January 2003.

The farm subsidies weren't the only payments her family benefited from:

    A construction company owned by GOP Iowa Senate candidate Joni Ernst’s father received more than $200,000 in county contracts while she served as auditor of Montgomery County, Iowa, despite a strict conflict of interest code governing the provision of contracts to family members of county officials.

    A new review of records — as well as an analysis of the Code of Iowa — by Salon reveals that the nature of the contracts and how they were promulgated, may have violated relevant county standards.

So, Joni Ernst can talk about other American families "living within their means" and having to use bread bags to cover her only pair of shoes, but she's willfully ignoring the assistance the U.S. government gave to her own family. No doubt her family worked hard, but they didn't exactly succeed by pulling themselves up alone. We, the American taxpayers, certainly gave them a hand-up when they needed it. Something Ernst would do well to remember as she works to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and the very subsidies that saved her family more than once.
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 01:14:46 PM »
But ya know the difference?
And it's a big difference!
Actually there are several.

#1. She isn't the President of the United States mis-leading the American People!

#2. Seems kind of lame hammering her because her Father, Grandfather, Uncle got a farm subsidy.
       Oh and her great great Grandfather maybe owned a slave?  ::)

#3. If....big "If"....but if she mis-led anyone....then the hell with her....throw her ass out!
                  If she is swine....F-her.....no excuse making or "well look what so and so did"

Thats the difference.....Leftist moron that wrote the story.
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 01:19:31 PM »
Amen!
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 02:16:47 PM »
She was talking about how "pore" she was.  And she was far from being poor.

Her speaking ability was highly overrated. It makes me wonder whether she was actually some sort of officer

And whatever colonels are, they are sure as Hell not "poor".

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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 02:27:03 PM »
She was talking about how "pore" she was.  And she was far from being poor.

You referring to Mrs Clinton?  I recall her stating she and her hubby were apparently broke.  Outside of whatever investments & speaking engagements she's earning income from, I'd say nearly every dollar she makes is provided by the tax payer.   

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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 03:20:14 PM »
This is not a discussion about Hillary Clinton. We know you hate her/ This is a discussion about that reedy voiced hog castrating, ethanol favoring silly woman the GOP chose to  present their foolish views.
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 04:14:35 PM »
It's an apparent discussion regarding politicians who claim some level of poverty, while being supplimented by the tax payers.  In Clinton's case it was actually direct compensation, vs simply the family
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 06:32:26 PM »
Notice the title: Joni Ernst. It is about her.

She has never been poor.   Neither has Hillary.
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 06:35:36 PM »
XO....I've never heard of this woman.
I would think 99% of Americans have never heard of her.
Come on XO...this "nobody" is certainly not the President of the United States mis-leading people.


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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 06:44:59 PM »
Notice the title: Joni Ernst. It is about her.

She has never been poor.   Neither has Hillary.


Hillary claimed she & Bill were broke.  Apparently that was just another stretch of the truth.....as in not
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 09:24:31 PM »
$460,000......................$14,705.........$23,690.........$367,141..............$250,000........$57,479

  This is several farms for multiple years?

   Not huge farms , the big farms get bigger money than this.

     Sometimes people get too impressed with the money involved in farming, but if you sell your harvest for two million dollars when your expenses were one million nine hundred  ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine, then your year cleared one dollar, and this does happen.

     Successful farmers become good at bookkeeping and if they don't a handful of federal dollars won't make up the difference.


  Got any idea what a middle to large farm costs to operate? The figures quoted here aren't all that impressive in the proper proportion.



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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 11:02:07 PM »
As I recall, Ernst was touted right here in this forum.  In any case, the GOP presented her to do the rebuttal of the President's State of the Union address, and she did not do very well at it. Ted Cruz tried to do a rebuttal, but he gave up before he was through. Both Ernst and Cruz  their speeches online, unless out of shame they were removed.

The fact is that Iowa farmers get HUGE subsidies from the government. And there really is nothing that is more effective to keep your shoes and socks dry than breadbags. Nothing that a teenage girl would want to wear to school, anyway.

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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 11:08:42 PM »
The fact is that Iowa farmers get HUGE subsidies from the government.
The amounts mentioned are small potatoes.

  Her Family's farms must not have been very large ones. Or if they are , they are not getting their fair share of the subsidy.

 

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 11:17:36 PM »
The fact is they are not small amounts compared to the money proposed to send young people to Community College. The Republican'ts cannot contain their rage at free "Obamaphones" even though the free cellphones were introduced before Obama was elected.

Farm people in the Midwest are exceedingly thrifty, which is not the same thing as being poor. There were about three dozen FHA guys in my HS graduating class, all of them from farm families.

The most prosperous lawyer in my home town told my father that he really wanted a Cadillac, but he was afraid that people would think he was "too big for his britches", and so he drove an Oldsmobile.
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Re: Joni Ernst and"Living within her means".
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2015, 11:27:23 PM »
  Of course she is not "poor" no one in the Congress is "poor".

   And the government has eliminated poor farmers , by taxing them out.

     Thrifty is good , I hope this is a real thing about her.

       But a Farmer that sells three million dollars worth of grain or meat this year is probably middle class, not wealthy.

       If the government offers you some money to keep a certain acreage fallow , it becomes a business decision whether or not to accept or apply for the money. This is how the government controls what is planted and harvested and the price thereof.

         The government also buys a lot of produce to put a floor on certain prices. If this is bad why is the government wanting to do it?