Sweet Headboard!

[Xavier_Onassis]

Just because nobody does more for gun safety than the NRA, that does not mean they are doing an adequate job.

Unless being a whore for the gun industry is their real job, which is exactly how I see them.

Everyone who is likely to own a gun already has one. Most gun sales are to people who already have two or more.

[sirs]

Because they do support the Constitution and 2nd amendment, in your mind they'll never "do enough of an adequate job" of teaching gun safety.  FACT is, they do staunchly push for gun safety & training, not just for members, but any law abiding citizen that chooses to exercise their 2nd amendment rights

[Christians4LessGvt]

[sirs]

Everyone who is likely to own a gun already has one. Most gun sales are to people who already have two or more.

Even if that were true, despite the clear unsubstantiation to the claim.................................so what if they did??     

[Plane]

Adequacy


That would be good to discuss.


What level of safety can possibly be reached , and could that be called adequate?

[sirs]

...and who gets to establish what is or isn't "adequate"?

[Plane]

...and who gets to establish what is or isn't "adequate"?

We do!

I can tell if I am satisfied , you can tell what would satisfy you.

I don't plan to demand infinite freedom , nor expect infinite safety.

I certainly want some co-operation from the government , helping me be safe.

But I want a limit on what the government is empowered to demand of me for my safety's sake lest in the name of safety they remove me far from dangerous freedom.

We are not executives or legislators or judges (as far as I know) so the stakes are small.

But we are all voters , that the executives , legislators and Judges want to vote their way, so the small stake is still there.

[sirs]

...and who gets to establish what is or isn't "adequate"?

We do!

As in.......the representatives we vote into office?  Otherwise, what "we" has any authority to establish anything that everyone else must abide by?  And once we start down that road of giving even more power to dictate what is or isn't "adequate", where does that stop?

[Plane]

...and who gets to establish what is or isn't "adequate"?

We do!

As in.......the representatives we vote into office?  Otherwise, what "we" has any authority to establish anything that everyone else must abide by?  And once we start down that road of giving even more power to dictate what is or isn't "adequate", where does that stop?

  No.

  As in I will continue to gripe until I am satisfied, as should we all.

   Adequate is ephemeral and abstract, but where the median or average of our wants meet , can be made solid enough to measure and point at.

[sirs]

So, basically its an individual determination of what is and isn't adequate, as it relates to self defense and firearm purchases.  Ok, I can live with that   

[Plane]

Oh yes !

Imagine setting the law for protection so loosely that the most risk loving of us all is satisfied with the resulting freedom?

Imagine setting the law for protection so tightly that the most risk averse is satisfied with the resulting safety?


At either pole most of us would be miserable.

Too much protection and we would have no skydiving , every third employee would be a guard or soldier.

Too little protection and we would commonly be injured by the frequent careless skydivers.

[sirs]

Mandated bubblewrap for any & all activity, outside of the home, which includes walking to your car in the driveway   

[Xavier_Onassis]

Mandating bubblewrap would be better than requiring everyone to be packing a gun. But I favor neither.

I have lived in a relatively dangerous city for 38 years and have only experienced one break-in and one bike stolen from my front yard.

I put bars on the windows and never leave a bike unattended.

[sirs]

Mandating bubblewrap would be better than requiring everyone to be packing a gun. But I favor neither.

And who's "requiring" everyone to be packing??

[Xavier_Onassis]

No one is requiring anyone to wear bubblewrap, either.