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[Plane]

If you like to vote Democrat, why are you voting less than eight times in every election?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I only voted once in any election. There is no voter fraud, that is a stupid myth.

[Plane]

I only voted once in any election. There is no voter fraud, that is a stupid myth.

Even in Florida ?

I would not be surprised if Ponce De Leon is still regestered.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The latest fraud involved some Cuban lady named Deisy who was turning in the absentee ballots of mentally challenged oldsters in assisted care homes for Republican candidates. She was arrested and is pending a trial, along with several accomplices.

We have to show a photo ID before we vote. My drivers license was recently up for renewal. I was required to present six pieces of identification, make an appointment and pay $48. The people at the DMV were courteous and efficient, which was remarkable, because the facility had a malfunctioning air conditioner and was in a building not suited to the purpose.

[Plane]

This makesme courious.

What is the least possible expense and trouble a voter in your area could expect to pay and endure if he needed ID for voting only?

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is a state ID card.

Figure it out for yourself.
http://www.gathergoget.com/checklist/checklist.aspx

[Plane]

  That was pretty good .

   It would seem that the main problem that would cause serious impediment would be homelessness.

  As far as I know everyone elese would have little problem getting an ID.

So it might be worthwile to find a good way to identify the homeless also so that their vote can be counted.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It costs money and it takes time.

To make an appointment, you really need a computer. If you try on the phone, you are in for a huge wait.

[Plane]

In Georgia the ID is free.

I like that , even the pennyless should have the chance to vote.

It still may be inconvienient , so there needs to be some more effort to bring the ID close to the people who need it.

http://www.sos.georgia.gov/gaphotoid/default.htm

Fortuneately  Georgia countys tend to be small, so no one is very far from a registrars office.


The AJC is very liberal, I thought this take was pretty funny.

When Georgia became one of the first states in the nation to demand a photo ID at the ballot box, both sides served up dire predictions. Opponents labeled it a Jim Crow-era tactic that would suppress the minority vote. Supporters insisted it was needed to combat fraud that imperiled the integrity of the elections process.

But both claims were overblown, according to a review of by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution of statewide voting patterns in the five years since the law took effect.

Turnout among black and Hispanic voters increased from 2006 to 2010, dramatically outpacing population growth for those groups over the same period.

On the other hand, Georgia’s top elections official could not point to a single case of ballot fraud the voter ID law had prevented.
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the law has had real and measurable effect for some voters: Since November 2008, the ballots of 1,586 Georgians didn’t count because of the law. (They arrived at the polls without a photo ID, cast provisional ballots, and did not return later with the required ID.) Overall, 13.6 million votes were cast in the state during the same period.

Hahahahahaha!
This can't be 1,586 prevented frauds can it?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I doubt that there were anywhere near that number of frauds.

The best explanation is that there were 1,586 pe3ople too lazy to return to show their IDs.

[Plane]

  Whether Lazy or Fraudulent,... we are talking about 1,586 Democrats arn't we?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I cannot imagine why you would say they were all Democrats. Logic dictates that some were Republicans and Independents.
It isn't important now. The election is over and the ballots were not counted and may have made no difference.

[Plane]

  Why do the Democrats maintain that tighter rules against cheating would be against them?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Because Democrats tend to be poorer and therefore move more often, which requires a change of address form and a new polling place. This whole stupid "voter fraud" thing was devised based on demographics by Republicans to throw Democrats off the voting rolls.

For every case of voter impersonation, about 500 people are disenfranchised because of this. The GOP honchos have talked about this a lot and there are conversations online about the intent of this nonsense. The REPUBLICANS maintain that photo IDs would benefit their candidates.

Here in Miami, nearly all voter fraud involves absentee ballots and local Cubans, who normally vote for Republicans.

If you have 100 million people voting, it is never going to be possible to eliminate all fraud. But what we have is around 99.9% and that is better than disenfranchising 5 to 8% because they moved to a different precinct.

[Plane]

  I bet it would be difficult to find 500 qualified voters who can't afford to get an ID, nationwide.

  And once you did, you could outfit each of them with an ID for a small sum.

    That votor fraud is common and half the Dem vote in some districts resides in graveyards I sincerely believe.

    You do not have to believe this if you don't wish to.

     But why such a fight against efforts to prevent cheating , when half the expense and effort would distribute enough IDs?